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Offline Ad@m

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #150 on: December 31, 2013, 08:22:29 AM »
Is there something like injury insurance to cover any of his wages?

I have no idea of the specifics for NZog but its pretty standard for players to be insured against serious injury.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #151 on: December 31, 2013, 08:39:17 AM »
N'Zogbia hasn't faked no injury, he's been having treatment between America and France, my mate who sits next to me spoke to him at birmingham airport 9 weeks ago, he was still on crutches and said be back soon.
Ok that's great news. Will be useful to have him for the run-in / dogfight in March April May.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #152 on: December 31, 2013, 08:40:15 AM »
N'zogbia becomes a better player the longer he is out injured. Funny how in the 2 preceding years for us can't remember too many displaced roots.

Let's face some facts he has been for the large part utterly utterly shite for us and has shown all the hallmakes of being a modern day footballing mercenary leech.

Just glad that with him being injured it is likely that we are only have to pay 30% of his wages.

If he is the answer then I really have to stop asking questions.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #153 on: December 31, 2013, 08:47:40 AM »
I think it's all a matter of perspective with N'Zogbia Rob. Is he the £9million player we brought to single handedly replace Ashley Young and Stewart Downing? No. Is he quite simply a better footballer than most of other attacking players in the squad/ Without doubt.

Watch the West Ham game from last season. No, he doesn't pull-up any trees but he wins a penalty and scores a direct free-kick in a game that we win 2-1. If he'd been fit he would have been quite capable of doing similar against Palace and Swansea recently, then we'd all be talking about pushing on towards Europe with a couple of signings in January!

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #154 on: December 31, 2013, 09:54:33 AM »
The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #155 on: December 31, 2013, 10:25:47 AM »
The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.

Completely agree, although I'd rather have a £9million player not providing value for money over a £2.5m player not providing value for money in Tonev!

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2013, 10:28:34 AM »
The difference between Nzogbia and most of the rest of the first team is that quite clearly he is good enough at this level and it is his attitude that lets him down at times.

I don't see Fulham ditching Berbatov and he suffers from the same illness.  On this basis and putting aside wages which you are going to have to pay for the rest of the season at least anyway then a fit Nzogbia should be a definite starter in our line up given our woeful current predicament.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2013, 10:30:35 AM »
The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.
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Completely agree, although I'd rather have a £9million player not providing value for money over a £2.5m player not providing value for money in Tonev!
Slightly bizarre comparison, but neither of the players will ensure our safety this season. N'Zog is vastly overrated; Tonev doesn't look up to it.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #158 on: December 31, 2013, 10:36:24 AM »
The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.
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Completely agree, although I'd rather have a £9million player not providing value for money over a £2.5m player not providing value for money in Tonev!
Slightly bizarre comparison, but neither of the players will ensure our safety this season. N'Zog is vastly overrated; Tonev doesn't look up to it.

Why bizarre?  They both play in either a wide or central attacking role. If N'zogbia is to get fit and force his way back into Lambert's plans it's Tonev's place in the current squad that I would imagine to be most under threat from him.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #159 on: December 31, 2013, 10:44:35 AM »
When he started he contributed a lot more than people seem to remember.  Cant remember him starting much of the first half of the season as he was injured but our best spell of the season was during feb/march and he was in the team regulary.

West brom away 2 2-set up both goals and created another for lichaj i think who should have scored
everton 3 3-set up Christians first goal
west ham 2 1win -scored a great free kick and won the penalty
arsenal 2 1 loss-assist for weimanns goal
qpr 3 2 win-his driving run and pass through to weimann to set up bentekes winner
fulham 1 1 scored a great goal

He only started a handful of other games and was either on the bench or injured.Hes a good player and makes things happen and should have started more games.  Why Lambert put him in the bomb squad and replaced him with tonev i will never know.  He was disapointing in his first season i have to admit but we could realy do with him now, hope he gets fit soon

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #160 on: December 31, 2013, 11:02:11 AM »
Why Lambert put him in the bomb squad and replaced him with tonev i will never know. 

I'd imagine it was because of his salary.  Tonev's probably being paid a 10th of what NZog is on.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #161 on: December 31, 2013, 11:07:33 AM »
When he started he contributed a lot more than people seem to remember.  Cant remember him starting much of the first half of the season as he was injured but our best spell of the season was during feb/march and he was in the team regulary.

West brom away 2 2-set up both goals and created another for lichaj i think who should have scored
everton 3 3-set up Christians first goal
west ham 2 1win -scored a great free kick and won the penalty
arsenal 2 1 loss-assist for weimanns goal
qpr 3 2 win-his driving run and pass through to weimann to set up bentekes winner
fulham 1 1 scored a great goal

He only started a handful of other games and was either on the bench or injured.Hes a good player and makes things happen and should have started more games.  Why Lambert put him in the bomb squad and replaced him with tonev i will never know.  He was disapointing in his first season i have to admit but we could realy do with him now, hope he gets fit soon

You seem to have missed out a whole season there - 2011-12.

Clearly a stunning success

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #162 on: December 31, 2013, 02:52:52 PM »
Nobody's saying n'zogbia has been a success. But I think he played an important role in keeping us up last year. Possibly nearly as important as Weimann despite many fewer minutes: west ham, QPR,  Fulham,  west brom. Scored or had a hand in six goals in those games.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #163 on: December 31, 2013, 03:17:35 PM »
Lambert didn't put N'Zogbia in the bomb squad, nor drive him out for Tonev. N'Zogbia snapped his Achilles tendon in the summer. Lambert's preference didn't come into it.

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Re: Charles N'zogbia update
« Reply #164 on: December 31, 2013, 03:47:01 PM »
The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.
Definitely not worth the £9.5m but he didn't get the chance to take many free kicks as Bannan used to grab the ball all the time. I doubt if we will ever get repaid much of that transfer fee. Players like that must see the gates of Villa Park looming ahead and starts thinking of getting the deck chairs out.

 


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