Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AMQuote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.I am on the brink of tears here.
Quote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.
I think the problem seems to be that, whilst nobody at the club will admit it, the extreme austerity measures being taken have transformed us into a very poor squad with no obvious means or intent to improve. We are at times depressingly short of premiership quality, and our position in the table is by no means as secure as 11th suggests. If there is a plan to at some point start buying players of suitable quality again, be it now or in the summer, it would be nice to be told?
Would you rather have the humiliation of playing at the Red Bull Stadium or getting hammered 8-0 by Chelsea every couple of years?
Quote from: Fergal on January 16, 2014, 12:01:36 PMWould you rather have the humiliation of playing at the Red Bull Stadium or getting hammered 8-0 by Chelsea every couple of years? That's not the point though is it? If it's Aston Villa Red Bulls then it's not Aston Villa - it's some other club, avoiding 8-0 thrashings at the Red Bull Stadium.
Quote from: Ads on January 16, 2014, 10:47:13 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AMQuote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?I felt humiliated by Mondays game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.I am on the brink of tears here.Really? I have felt humiliated a few times in recent seasons, but not on Monday.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AMQuote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?I felt humiliated by Mondays game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.I am on the brink of tears here.
Quote from: Montbert on January 16, 2014, 12:03:14 PMQuote from: Fergal on January 16, 2014, 12:01:36 PMWould you rather have the humiliation of playing at the Red Bull Stadium or getting hammered 8-0 by Chelsea every couple of years? That's not the point though is it? If it's Aston Villa Red Bulls then it's not Aston Villa - it's some other club, avoiding 8-0 thrashings at the Red Bull Stadium.How does it make a difference. Spurs, Arsenal and United have all lost 6-0 plus in the last couple of years. Tonkings happen, even to good sides.
Quote from: Damo70 on January 16, 2014, 11:39:34 AMQuote from: Ads on January 16, 2014, 10:47:13 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AMQuote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.I am on the brink of tears here.Really? I have felt humiliated a few times in recent seasons, but not on Monday.Sarcasm doesn't scan well on the net. I was taking the piss out of all the weeping clichéd shite that we read on here day in day out at the moment.
Quote from: Ads on January 16, 2014, 10:47:13 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AMQuote from: Concrete John on January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2014, 10:36:37 AMI love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see." I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.I am on the brink of tears here.Really? I have felt humiliated a few times in recent seasons, but not on Monday.
Quote from: ozzjim on January 16, 2014, 12:09:40 PMQuote from: Montbert on January 16, 2014, 12:03:14 PMQuote from: Fergal on January 16, 2014, 12:01:36 PMWould you rather have the humiliation of playing at the Red Bull Stadium or getting hammered 8-0 by Chelsea every couple of years? That's not the point though is it? If it's Aston Villa Red Bulls then it's not Aston Villa - it's some other club, avoiding 8-0 thrashings at the Red Bull Stadium.How does it make a difference. Spurs, Arsenal and United have all lost 6-0 plus in the last couple of years. Tonkings happen, even to good sides. If you could carry on watching the GB branch of the Red Bulls international sporting franchise as if it's Aston Villa then that's fine. In this situation we'd all have to make up our own minds, and I'm not sure it would feel enough like the same club for me.
Quote from: Montbert on January 16, 2014, 12:12:03 PMQuote from: ozzjim on January 16, 2014, 12:09:40 PMQuote from: Montbert on January 16, 2014, 12:03:14 PMQuote from: Fergal on January 16, 2014, 12:01:36 PMWould you rather have the humiliation of playing at the Red Bull Stadium or getting hammered 8-0 by Chelsea every couple of years? That's not the point though is it? If it's Aston Villa Red Bulls then it's not Aston Villa - it's some other club, avoiding 8-0 thrashings at the Red Bull Stadium.How does it make a difference. Spurs, Arsenal and United have all lost 6-0 plus in the last couple of years. Tonkings happen, even to good sides. If you could carry on watching the GB branch of the Red Bulls international sporting franchise as if it's Aston Villa then that's fine. In this situation we'd all have to make up our own minds, and I'm not sure it would feel enough like the same club for me.That's because it wouldn't be the same club. We'd have sold our soul and it's not something I'd want any part of. It's not gonna happen anyway so I don't know what all the fuss is about really.