Takeover rumours

[TimTheVillain]

Of course we are in a better position than last year. I don't think many dispute that. It's a question of whether that's enough. For some it's not. If it is for you the bonus is you should have no problem getting tickets.

I don't suppose anyone is happy with our current position and neither do they want it to be the extent of our ambition - and contrary to some perceived wisdom that includes the board.

So what do you think they ( the board) should do about it ?

[SoccerHQ]

We're in a mid table group that probably won't go down but will struggle to finish any higher than 10th.

Southampton and Newcastle are in the top 9 and both still have a small chance of top 6 if either hit some form so yep competiting for european qualification matters slightly more than the mid table nothingness/relegation battles we're getting year in year out.

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Both were in a relegation battle last season. Why is it that half a season makes them "sides that matter"?

[SoccerHQ]

O.k in relation to this season both sides matter. I wouldn't mind watching a midfield of Cabaye, Sissoko, Ben Arfa personally or one with Lallana, Ward-Prowse in it. They simply have better quality players in more areas of the pitch than we do. If KEA plodding along in every single home game floats your boat, fair enough.

[olaftab]

I was wondering how older Salzburg fans felt when Red Bull took over. It's not like their association with Red Bull has made them into a European power. I also then realized that as a club they've changed their name 3 times in their history, so maybe Red Bull only appeals to clubs that are willing to sell themselves out or don't have any kind of regard for tradition.
I don't know what I'd do. I barely watch football now except our games. Life as neutral football fan hold very little appeal to me.

The problem with Red Bull take over is that they are a  business corporation run by an Exec Board with normal business targets. Mainly to extract as much profit as possible  by selling their beverages. Therefore their investment in a football club will be limited to a payback scenario. It's not going to be endless  bags of money being poured in. For that you need  an individual with loads of dirty money and complete autonomy as to how they spend it. In other words an Arab or a Russian oligarch.

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 I want us to be as good as we can and better than Mickey Mouse clubs like Southampton et al for sure. I personally don't think they're a million miles in front of us.

It's the sides that matter comment that got me. Matter to who? The fans? Surely all 20 clubs matter to the fans? Matter to the media? If you had seen Sky's advert for their weekend games and Monday night football, then would need no reminding of what small clutch of clubs actually matter.

[cheltenhamlion]

That pissed me off as well Ads. Look at the games we have on this weekend. They are great because we are showing Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal.

[paul_e]

I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?

I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.

I am on the brink of tears here.

Really? I have felt humiliated a few times in recent seasons, but not on Monday.

Sarcasm doesn't scan well on the net. I was taking the piss out of all the weeping clichéd shite that we read on here day in day out at the moment.

And I was taking the piss out of the clichéd head buried in sand type shit from the posters on here who are so desperate to tell us all is well at Villa Park.

and at the same time continuing to prove that you have no concept of balance, to clarify thinking it's not quite the end of the world doesn't mean 'all is well', there's a hell of a lot of opinions that fit in between those viewpoints but when you get so far to one side it's easy to lose sight of that.  Performances this season have been poor, no one denies that, but that doesn't automatically mean that we're in the middle of the relegation battle with a shit manager and a squad full of championship players.  Our midfield isn't right, hat much is obvious, lets fix that problem and then see where we are before we throw everything away.

[LeeB]

You're wasting your time, paul, it's like a broken record.

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And I was taking the piss out of the clichéd head buried in sand type shit from the posters on here who are so desperate to tell us all is well at Villa Park.

Don't be a whopper.

Nobody at all has said they are happy with how things are. Why lie?

[Clampy]

I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?

I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.

I am on the brink of tears here.

Really? I have felt humiliated a few times in recent seasons, but not on Monday.

Sarcasm doesn't scan well on the net. I was taking the piss out of all the weeping clichéd shite that we read on here day in day out at the moment.

And I was taking the piss out of the clichéd head buried in sand type shit from the posters on here who are so desperate to tell us all is well at Villa Park.

What were you saying on another thread about being able to have an opinion?

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If you're not sticking your head in the oven, its only because you have it in the sand apparently.

[SoccerHQ]

I want us to be as good as we can and better than Mickey Mouse clubs like Southampton et al for sure. I personally don't think they're a million miles in front of us.

It's the sides that matter comment that got me. Matter to who? The fans? Surely all 20 clubs matter to the fans? Matter to the media? If you had seen Sky's advert for their weekend games and Monday night football, then would need no reminding of what small clutch of clubs actually matter.

Oh I agree, with Liebrah's pulling out and Pochettino probably leaving in 6 months they do have a Pompey feel about them.

It goes back to what we would need Red Bull for, to win the league yes. To be back in the top 6 and be back playing regularly in europe, surely not. Just because MON had to spend 200m dosen't mean other managers would have to.

[themossman]

The whole pointing at recently promoted clubs as shining examples of what we should be aiming at gets my goat. Wigan in the Jewell era were a good example of that phenomenon.

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The whole pointing at recently promoted clubs as shining examples of what we should be aiming at gets my goat. Wigan in the Jewell era were a good example of that phenomenon.

This is it. Only the truly big clubs really stick around forever.

If the past 20 years are anything to go by, and past action tends to be a good indicator of the future, then over the next 20 years how many times will the likes of West Brom, Southampton, Swansea, Norwich, West Ham etc have bounced up and down the leagues?