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Offline Concrete John

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #345 on: January 16, 2014, 10:39:09 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

Offline baddowvillans

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #346 on: January 16, 2014, 10:40:11 AM »
I agree. But at least they have them now and would receive significant cash in return. Don't get me wrong I don't want to be Southampton but I guess the dilemma is that as you can't build a side challenging for the top places without investment there are very few models which make that investment "risk free" to the fabric of the football club. It's easy to snigger at Southampton's ambition of CL but at least they had ambition above survival.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #347 on: January 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?

Offline baddowvillans

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #348 on: January 16, 2014, 10:42:31 AM »
Of course we are in a better position than last year. I don't think many dispute that. It's a question of whether that's enough. For some it's not. If it is for you the bonus is you should have no problem getting tickets.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #349 on: January 16, 2014, 10:45:25 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

I'm not clutching myself, however if you think were on the up then I think you're in for a shock

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #350 on: January 16, 2014, 10:45:49 AM »
Of course we are in a better position than last year. I don't think many dispute that. It's a question of whether that's enough. For some it's not. If it is for you the bonus is you should have no problem getting tickets.

We're Aston Villa, so of course it's not enough.  It is, however, enough for this season as long as we maintain, or even slightly improve upon, our present midtable position.

Offline Ads

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #351 on: January 16, 2014, 10:47:13 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?

I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.

I am on the brink of tears here.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #352 on: January 16, 2014, 10:47:31 AM »
Of course we are in a better position than last year. I don't think many dispute that. It's a question of whether that's enough. For some it's not. If it is for you the bonus is you should have no problem getting tickets.

I don't suppose anyone is happy with our current position and neither do they want it to be the extent of our ambition - and contrary to some perceived wisdom that includes the board.

Offline mrfuse

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #353 on: January 16, 2014, 10:48:49 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

I agree with the comment Dave, but I also think even though were better off points and player wise the performances have been terrible and I feel were in about to get dragged into the relegation fight again.
That saying I wouldn't want to get taken over by Red Bull which as you say is a non-existent story anyway.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #354 on: January 16, 2014, 10:54:52 AM »
I agree with the comment Dave, but I also think even though were better off points and player wise the performances have been terrible and I feel were in about to get dragged into the relegation fight again.That saying I wouldn't want to get taken over by Red Bull which as you say is a non-existent story anyway.

This is the bit I don't get.

I agree we're playing badly, but have managed to keep the points total ticking over.  Why?  Because we have a much improved defense and players capable to scoring a goal or two.  So, even if the poor performances continue, those two facts should still apply and keep us clear.  And what's to say we won't turn a corner performance wise and start showing what we've done in flashes this season and the latter part of 12/13, which would probably see us climb up the table from where we are now?     

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #355 on: January 16, 2014, 10:58:47 AM »
I'd rather be crap and sign Grant Holt than have the club truly lose its heart and soul, it wouldn't be the club I fell for in the first place.

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #356 on: January 16, 2014, 11:06:18 AM »
I agree with the comment Dave, but I also think even though were better off points and player wise the performances have been terrible and I feel were in about to get dragged into the relegation fight again.That saying I wouldn't want to get taken over by Red Bull which as you say is a non-existent story anyway.

And what's to say we won't turn a corner performance wise and start showing what we've done in flashes this season and the latter part of 12/13, which would probably see us climb up the table from where we are now?     

I think that needs to happen sooner rather than later to be honest. Whilst things are not as bad as some people would want you to believe, losing to three lower league teams two seasons on the trot is a bit concerning.

Offline NeilH

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #357 on: January 16, 2014, 11:07:44 AM »
Whilst the board may no doubt wish us to be in a better position, actions speak a lot louder than words and the perception right now (which is based on matters on the field and football transfers off it) is that we seem more than happy to tootle along with poor quality football and un-ambitious signings. It’s little wonder therefore that fans start yearning for better signs and non-existent takeovers.

If the rumours are true of transfer funds being made available, but Lambert choosing to doggedly stick to his plan, then I sincerely hope that Faulkner and Lerner have had a series of very frank conversations with Lambert about the consequences of his actions; given that his master plan is currently showing signs of coming off the rails.

I am very much on the moderate and patient side when it comes to Villa, but this season so far and the backwards steps following an amazing start at Arsenal, are making me seriously question where we are going and I am questioning both Lambert and Lerner when it comes to this.

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #358 on: January 16, 2014, 11:12:35 AM »
I love this idea that we're in decline and doomed when we're better off in every way than this time last year and the only way said seemingly-irreversible decline can be reversed is by clutching at the straw of a non-existent takeover.

To quote Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense, "People only see what they want to see."

I want to see us not humiliated at home. Is that too much to ask?

I felt humiliated by Monday’s game. I was looking for the rope and couldn't help but think how far we have fallen and what has happened to our once great club? It wouldn't have been like this under Ellis.

I am on the brink of tears here.


Quite right. Ellis would have sacked Lambert by now. And rightly so.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Red Bull to give us wings?
« Reply #359 on: January 16, 2014, 11:39:23 AM »
Going back on topic, I'd weclome any investment into the club, provided it comes with a healthy respect for our history and the fans.

Change the name?  No
Change the kit coulours?  No
Naming right to the stadium?  I can live with that   

 


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