Quote from: QBVILLA on December 10, 2014, 01:17:46 PMQuote from: RussellC on December 10, 2014, 12:39:26 PMBit unfair, to say the least. Hutton had gone down because he had been wiped-out by Konchesky. As I said earlier on, lunging in towards a stationary player player (especially one who is only likely to have one leg grounded to having just played the ball) is extremely reckless. There's no way on earth it was a dive and he was down for a matter of seconds before jumping-up to remonstrate with Konchesky. A perfectly natural reaction, in my opinion.As others have pointed out, we're now in a situation where hutton has been yellow-carded for the incident and Konchesky has got away scott-free. Bizarre. As is the insinuation that Hutton somehow cheated. Without wanting to get into a debate on both threads i've explained my view on it on the Clark thread. I never said he dived, I said he feigned injury. Completely different. The FA cannot rescind yellow cards and Konchesky missed the last 15 minutes of the game. His side reduced to ten men had therefore less of a chance of getting back into the game so he didn't get off 'scot free'.I wouldn't say that diving and feigning injury are 'completely different at all'. They're both tantamount to attempts to con the referee into getting an opponent unduly punished. In this case, there was absolutely no need for Hutton to do so, as the tackle was there for all to see.
Quote from: RussellC on December 10, 2014, 12:39:26 PMBit unfair, to say the least. Hutton had gone down because he had been wiped-out by Konchesky. As I said earlier on, lunging in towards a stationary player player (especially one who is only likely to have one leg grounded to having just played the ball) is extremely reckless. There's no way on earth it was a dive and he was down for a matter of seconds before jumping-up to remonstrate with Konchesky. A perfectly natural reaction, in my opinion.As others have pointed out, we're now in a situation where hutton has been yellow-carded for the incident and Konchesky has got away scott-free. Bizarre. As is the insinuation that Hutton somehow cheated. Without wanting to get into a debate on both threads i've explained my view on it on the Clark thread. I never said he dived, I said he feigned injury. Completely different. The FA cannot rescind yellow cards and Konchesky missed the last 15 minutes of the game. His side reduced to ten men had therefore less of a chance of getting back into the game so he didn't get off 'scot free'.
Bit unfair, to say the least. Hutton had gone down because he had been wiped-out by Konchesky. As I said earlier on, lunging in towards a stationary player player (especially one who is only likely to have one leg grounded to having just played the ball) is extremely reckless. There's no way on earth it was a dive and he was down for a matter of seconds before jumping-up to remonstrate with Konchesky. A perfectly natural reaction, in my opinion.As others have pointed out, we're now in a situation where hutton has been yellow-carded for the incident and Konchesky has got away scott-free. Bizarre. As is the insinuation that Hutton somehow cheated.
Was their any attempt to feign an injury though? Watch it again, he clearly gets caught across the top of the foot and goes down face first then rolls over onto his back and about 2 seconds later is on his feet face-to-face with konchesky. There was no rolling around or waving at the ref (or even looking at the ref). Take Konchesky away and he probably (on the balance of his actions to that point) takes a few seconds to adjust his socks/boots and then gets up no harm done, some of you seem to be seeing something that just isn't there.
Suspect it was just suggesting Hutton was play acting a bit. All hand bags really. I think he deserved at least a yellow for the combined challenge & mouthful he gave Hutton. Nasty and unnecessary.
Did no one else see that incident go off and think Hutton is going to get sent off here?
Quote from: chrisw1 on December 10, 2014, 10:59:09 AMSuspect it was just suggesting Hutton was play acting a bit. All hand bags really. I think he deserved at least a yellow for the combined challenge & mouthful he gave Hutton. Nasty and unnecessary. So you've gone from this to saying it was ridiculous to suggest he was feigning injury? Russell, agree that feigning injury and diving are both attempts to con the referee but they are still different issues. Did no one else see that incident go off and think Hutton is going to get sent off here?
Play acting in what sense was he suggesting?
Quote from: QBVILLA on December 10, 2014, 04:00:28 PMPlay acting in what sense was he suggesting?FFS what do you think? I couldn't hear him. Could you? The point is someone said they would have liked to have heard what Konchesky said to Hutton. I speculated that he was probably accusing him of play acting
Right. In summary.I said that Hutton was feigning injury. You said that was 'ridiculous'. I pulled up a quote where you said that Konchesky was accusing him of play acting. Another term for feigning injury. So 'FFS' does that answer it for you? Also 'ffs' at no point did i feel the need to become a condescending arse to get my point across Chrisw.Merry Christmas.