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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1740 on: February 02, 2014, 06:56:06 PM »
Despite being a bear I view Giles as being another company man, a dull status quo, unimaginative, don't rock the boat selection. So it will most likely be him.

I agree, ash has been great for warwickshire but he is not the right man for the big job that awaits the next England coach - i really hope he doesn't get the nod.
I don't disagree with either of you here, i also do not think he is the right man for the job but what i ask is who is? Gary Kirsten seems to be the choice of the pundits
and he does have a good record over the last four years and is more or less available or at least he is 'only' coaching Delhi Daredevils in the IPL, but i daresay they pay him a pretty penny
so it may cost the ECB if they want him. So on that basis other names mentioned have been Tom Moody and our own Ashley Giles......i think the ECB may go for the man they know in Ashley.
He, rightly or wrongly is probably the favourite!!!

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1741 on: February 02, 2014, 07:59:12 PM »
Would prefer kirsten or moody to Giles .

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1742 on: February 02, 2014, 08:07:10 PM »
I wonder if  someone like Ian Botham or Nassar Hussain would be interested in the job or are they to comfortable in their Sky jobs

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1743 on: February 02, 2014, 08:10:55 PM »
I wonder if  someone like Ian Botham or Nassar Hussain would be interested in the job or are they to comfortable in their Sky jobs

Michael vaughan?

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1744 on: February 02, 2014, 10:11:10 PM »
Would prefer kirsten or moody to Giles .

Me too, we need fresh ideas.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1745 on: February 02, 2014, 10:50:49 PM »
You should only promote from within when you're happy with the results you're getting and want to keep the status quo. I can't imagine that the general public are going to be happy and being as we've clearly moved into a transition phase with a lot of young kids coming through, we do need to look outside the current set-up.

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« Reply #1746 on: February 02, 2014, 11:01:22 PM »
Unsure about Moody's credentials - he was Sri Lankan coach from around 2005-7 getting to the final of the World Cup, he then left them to coach at the WACA for 3 years not exactly pulling any trees up.
Then last year he coached Sunrisers Hyderabad....presumably he is contracted to be their coach this year as well.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1747 on: February 02, 2014, 11:03:35 PM »
I can't seeing England hiring an Australian as head coach to be honest.

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« Reply #1748 on: February 02, 2014, 11:05:51 PM »
I can't seeing England hiring an Australian as head coach to be honest.
We employed David Saker as bowling coach didn't we.

I don't want Moody so i hope you're right!!!

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1749 on: February 02, 2014, 11:15:33 PM »
I can't seeing England hiring an Australian as head coach to be honest.
We employed David Saker as bowling coach didn't we.

I don't want Moody so i hope you're right!!!

I think bowling or batting coach is one thing, being head coach is another.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1750 on: February 04, 2014, 06:01:37 PM »
Sounds like KP's international career is at an end, scape goat.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1751 on: February 04, 2014, 06:18:53 PM »
Quote from: telegraph

The curtain looks set to come down on Kevin Pietersen’s brilliant but controversial England career after urgent talks at Lord’s.

Sportsmail understands that a meeting between Ashley Giles, Alastair Cook and Paul Downton has decided it is best for England to move on towards a new era without their highly talented maverick.

A statement from the ECB will almost certainly confirm that one of the best batsmen to ever play for England has reached the end of the line after one controversy too many in a chequered career.

It looked certain Pietersen would be jettisoned in the aftermath of the 5-0 humiliation in Australia after his fragile relationship with team director Andy Flower had broken down towards the end of the Ashes thrashing.

Yet the surprise decision of Flower to stand down on Friday after England’s results in Australia went from very bad to even worse during the limited-overs leg changed the landscape and offered Pietersen the possibility of a reprieve.

That slight glimmer of hope seems to have disappeared today in a hotel across the road from the home of cricket where one-day coach Giles met captain Cook and new managing director Downton for an unprecedented summit on one player.

On Thursday England are due to announce their party for a one-day tour of West Indies later this month and the World Twenty20 in Bangladesh in March and it now seems certain that Pietersen’s name will not be included.


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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1752 on: February 04, 2014, 06:19:31 PM »
Bang on -

@GaryLineker: “@_PaulHayward: If Kevin Pietersen is dumped by England they'll need to explain what he did wrong in Australia. Dislike not enough.” <Agreed


@GaryLineker: Hard to understand the @KP24 situation. Huge talent, poorly managed. Good leaders deal with mavericks. Bring out the best in them.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 06:21:19 PM by eastie »

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1753 on: February 04, 2014, 06:25:40 PM »
Seems he couldn't play again under flower but with flower gone this is odd - cook can't handle him maybe?


@Aggerscricket: I see @piersmorgan - a close friend of KP - tweeting that he has been sacked

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1754 on: February 04, 2014, 06:27:59 PM »
Seems ridiculous to me, you have to deal with your best players not just get rid of them. Really poor again from England.

 


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