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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1635 on: January 24, 2014, 11:26:50 AM »
you not singing anymore , your not well anyway yay

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1636 on: January 24, 2014, 11:30:19 AM »
Ta Da!

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1637 on: January 24, 2014, 11:58:05 AM »
Michael Clarke, willy wombat, kylie Minogue , Rolf Harris, skippy, dame Edna - your boys took a beating tonight ..... 
Engerland engerand engerland .........

Jingle bells jingle bells..........

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1638 on: January 24, 2014, 12:03:02 PM »
Buttler looks like the real deal.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1639 on: January 24, 2014, 12:31:18 PM »
A win, a win, good christ a win!

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1640 on: January 24, 2014, 01:28:42 PM »
What's good about this one day series is that it's highlighted some players who could be very useful in Tests - Ballance, Buttler, Morgan and Jordan have all staked a claim. That's on top of Cook, Bell, Stokes, Broad who are already there.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1641 on: January 24, 2014, 01:31:33 PM »
What's good about this one day series is that it's highlighted some players who could be very useful in Tests - Ballance, Buttler, Morgan and Jordan have all staked a claim. That's on top of Cook, Bell, Stokes, Broad who are already there.

I agree, especially Buttler I think, Prior's loss of form left a big hole in our lower order.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1642 on: January 24, 2014, 01:57:45 PM »
What's good about this one day series is that it's highlighted some players who could be very useful in Tests - Ballance, Buttler, Morgan and Jordan have all staked a claim. That's on top of Cook, Bell, Stokes, Broad who are already there.

I agree, especially Buttler I think, Prior's loss of form left a big hole in our lower order.

Will be an interesting battle between buttler and prior for the gloves this summer - can't see anyone else in contention for the role.

The huge plus from the series is stokes - a real prospect for the future - I'm looking forward to the visit of India and seeing some of these younger lads get a chance as well as the return to form of our better players , time to dust ourselves down regroup and go again to coin a phrase.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1643 on: January 24, 2014, 02:00:39 PM »
Buttler and Jordan are the 2 for me, Jordan just looks to have a bit of extra pace that we've been missing for a few years and Buttler is a massive talent, he's very strong but he has much better technique than he's given credit for as well, and he's a much better keeper than Bairstow.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1644 on: January 24, 2014, 05:22:55 PM »
Buttler competing with Prior in form would be great for us. Jordan impresses me too, but he needs to sustain his pace throughout the day. Overton hasn't appeared yet, but he is quick.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1645 on: January 24, 2014, 09:43:50 PM »
Buttler competing with Prior in form would be great for us. Jordan impresses me too, but he needs to sustain his pace throughout the day. Overton hasn't appeared yet, but he is quick.

Whisper it quietly, but I've been increasingly encouraged with what I've seen of the 50 over team.  Add a switched on KP at three and a strike bowler (hopefully Finn, Rankin or someone like Overton can find some form) and we could be an outside shout at the World Cup next year.  Before I'm accused of getting carried away after one win, I think the spine of the ODI team has been developing nicely over the past year or so and we've still got another year before the WC to fill in the gaps. 

Still not sure about Cook being in the ODI side let alone captain though!!

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1646 on: January 24, 2014, 10:56:45 PM »
We only just seem to be learning that we need to be getting 300+ though. For far too long we took the conservative approach of building a solid base and only really going for it in the last 10 overs. That's just not enough these days. The 20-20 form of the game has influenced the ODI's and often a lot of 20-20 players are coming through into the ODI team. Today was the best evidence that it's starting to sink in as we made a good start. It's still one match though. It needs to be consistently like that.

Today's line-up was pretty good. Out of the batsmen, I would have only flipped Bopara and Buttler around.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1647 on: January 24, 2014, 11:22:27 PM »
Buttler competing with Prior in form would be great for us. Jordan impresses me too, but he needs to sustain his pace throughout the day. Overton hasn't appeared yet, but he is quick.

Whisper it quietly, but I've been increasingly encouraged with what I've seen of the 50 over team.  Add a switched on KP at three and a strike bowler (hopefully Finn, Rankin or someone like Overton can find some form) and we could be an outside shout at the World Cup next year.  Before I'm accused of getting carried away after one win, I think the spine of the ODI team has been developing nicely over the past year or so and we've still got another year before the WC to fill in the gaps. 

Still not sure about Cook being in the ODI side let alone captain though!!

Cook on form is fine, he's capable of scoring at a strike rate of 90+ and with the right players around him that's not a problem. Form is massively important though, because I think given the way his tour has gone I believe it'll influence his captaincy. If he stays as captain he'll be a lot more assertive from now on.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1648 on: January 25, 2014, 12:40:41 PM »
Buttler competing with Prior in form would be great for us. Jordan impresses me too, but he needs to sustain his pace throughout the day. Overton hasn't appeared yet, but he is quick.

Whisper it quietly, but I've been increasingly encouraged with what I've seen of the 50 over team.  Add a switched on KP at three and a strike bowler (hopefully Finn, Rankin or someone like Overton can find some form) and we could be an outside shout at the World Cup next year.  Before I'm accused of getting carried away after one win, I think the spine of the ODI team has been developing nicely over the past year or so and we've still got another year before the WC to fill in the gaps. 

Still not sure about Cook being in the ODI side let alone captain though!!

Cook on form is fine, he's capable of scoring at a strike rate of 90+ and with the right players around him that's not a problem. Form is massively important though, because I think given the way his tour has gone I believe it'll influence his captaincy. If he stays as captain he'll be a lot more assertive from now on.

I can see where you're coming from Paul and I suppose Cook would be OK to open if someone like KP is batting at three.  When we had an top three of Cook, Bell and Trott in ODIs we got bogged down too often in overs 20-40 and there was no real acceleration.  Cook and Bell are both capable of scoring run-a-ball hundreds, but if both are opening we need someone who can accelerate the innings when required batting at three.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #1649 on: January 25, 2014, 12:43:25 PM »
We only just seem to be learning that we need to be getting 300+ though. For far too long we took the conservative approach of building a solid base and only really going for it in the last 10 overs. That's just not enough these days. The 20-20 form of the game has influenced the ODI's and often a lot of 20-20 players are coming through into the ODI team. Today was the best evidence that it's starting to sink in as we made a good start. It's still one match though. It needs to be consistently like that.

Today's line-up was pretty good. Out of the batsmen, I would have only flipped Bopara and Buttler around.

Totally agree.  I have to say I don't think I've ever seen an England player capable of smashing big hits on a regular basis like Buttler can.   

 


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