Ashes 2013/14

[Monty]

Maybe we'd benefit from appointing Michael Vaughan to the backroom staff. Not in place of anyone, just in addition. He could help imprint a more positive mindset and style, and help Cook with tactics and mentality.

I get the impression Vaughan is really enjoying this England performance and delighting in putting the boot in.  I find him quote negative.

In all fairness, I think that view is close to lunacy.

[PaulWinch again]

I think Vaughan is hating it as much as any of us.

[Proposition Joe]

I think Swann's gone already and Jimmy needs to start turning up. Broad's already out for the rest of the game anyway. This tour has to be rock bottom, and we must rebuild now because it has been an utter disgrace.

Jimmy has looked exhausted/lethargic for quite some time.  Everyone was crying out for him to be rested for the Durham test last year and it being the perfect time to give Onions a go, but they went for same old, same old.  Jimmy needs to recharge his batteries, because when he's "on", he's really on.

[OzVilla]

How long do they need?

It's not like they play any county cricket is it and it's the same for both sides.

The ball isn't swinging for Jimmy and due to our batting efforts they get 60 overs in the sheds having bowled for 110 and they are back out there again.

To many living off reputations, too much of the "these are proven players whove done great things" talk after every days play from the England camp.

We've been no where near good enough. Prior and Swann in particular have been dreadful.

[willywombat]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

[willywombat]

Fucking terrible again England. I don't envy you Oz being surrounded by gloating Aussies!

It's horrible it really is but to be fair I've been giving them a fair bit of stick over the last few years so I can't really complain to much.




Halleluijah, well said Oz

[PaulWinch again]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

In fairness I think both countries are pretty bad winners, Australia gave it out for fucking years and us English have been the same. I don't think either can try and claim any moral high ground.

[willywombat]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

In fairness I think both countries are pretty bad winners, Australia gave it out for fucking years and us English have been the same. I don't think either can try and claim any moral high ground.

Spot on mate

[aj2k77]

Not looking forward to us batting again later, i'm going to have to sedate myself with a few beers. Villa and England 3-0 on the same day  . I would love to just see two batsmen put together a proper partnership today and make runs in a proper manner, keep the board ticking over, get your singles, rotate the strike, move the field around. Not get pinned down and bullied surrounded by about 7 bloody slips.

[tomd2103]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

Come off it Willy old son.  Some of the on and off field behaviour by the Aussies (Johnson and Warner in particular) has been especially bad and I can't remember instances of English players behaving that way.  That said, fair play to Australia.  It's been embarassingly one sided so far.

[willywombat]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

Come off it Willy old son.  Some of the on and off field behaviour by the Aussies (Johnson and Warner in particular) has been especially bad and I can't remember instances of English players behaving that way.  That said, fair play to Australia.  It's been embarassingly one sided so far.

Seriously, tell me what Johnson has done, apart from bowling aggressively and taking a lot of wickets? Warner said during the first test that he thought he could see fear in Trott's eyes and given his subsequent return home with stress issues he probably wasn't that wide of the mark. I'm pretty sure that, had he been aware of the extent of Trott's problems, he might have chosen his words more carefully but it's hardly up there in Lance Armstrong territory is it? It's always been a hard fought contest between England and Australia and players on both sides have stated that nothing worse than normal has gone on so I genuinely can't see what the problem is

[OzVilla]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

Come off it Willy old son.  Some of the on and off field behaviour by the Aussies (Johnson and Warner in particular) has been especially bad and I can't remember instances of English players behaving that way.  That said, fair play to Australia.  It's been embarassingly one sided so far.

Seriously, tell me what Johnson has done, apart from bowling aggressively and taking a lot of wickets? Warner said during the first test that he thought he could see fear in Trott's eyes and given his subsequent return home with stress issues he probably wasn't that wide of the mark. I'm pretty sure that, had he been aware of the extent of Trott's problems, he might have chosen his words more carefully but it's hardly up there in Lance Armstrong territory is it? It's always been a hard fought contest between England and Australia and players on both sides have stated that nothing worse than normal has gone on so I genuinely can't see what the problem is

Agree to an extent but what Warner said was completely out of order - you don't talk like that about other players during games full stop.  I'm sure a few of the England lads now regret not tweeting about Warners antics in the Walkabout rather than adopting the diplomatic "it's a Cricket Australia matter" that they did.

Separate issue but the Courier Mail has been a disgrace, no wonder Queensland has a reputation for being bogans with that rag around.

[aj2k77]

It's been white flag stuff hasn't it. The fielding today and yesterday is probably  some of the worst for 20 years and as for Cooks captaincy i'll leave that analysis to Warne.

[eastie]

And, it's very much true that Australia are bad losers and even worse winners.  At least if we won the last two, the incessant crowing might quieten down a bit.

That's absolutely staggering. We've had to put up with your incessant crowing for the last few series, now you're getting your arses kicked you're crying like babies and we shouldn't mention it. Bad losers? lol, as I believe the kids say

Shame on you wombat

[willywombat]

I feel for Cooke, to get a delivery like that first ball up was desperate. He must feel like shit at the moment