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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #315 on: November 24, 2013, 08:18:20 AM »
Yeah we need to come back at them hard and hit them very hard. Our players should be embarrassed that they've performed at that level, but the level of Aussie disrespect has gone to new levels.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #316 on: November 24, 2013, 08:20:59 AM »
The biggest concerns are Trott and Prior who can't hold a bat the moment.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #317 on: November 24, 2013, 08:28:33 AM »
I cannot underestimate the level of aggression towards the England team here right now. They don't like us and they think they got on the wrong end of pretty much everything last series so the hostility, led by Lehmann and aided and abetted by the media is like ive not seen in nearly 10 years. The country has bought into this  and that's why Warner is saying what he did in the press conference.

Partly because they think we're weak and partly to send a message to the crowds. The stick England and Broad got I particular in the ground on days 1 and 2 had to be seen to be appreciated.

Say what you like about Clarke, he needs to win this series so a few choice words in the middle are just the starters.  He praised the crowd afterwards and appealed for continued support - this ain't gonna let up until we shut them up.

It's all about how England responds now.  I just pray the Aussie perception of us isn't a correct one.
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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #318 on: November 24, 2013, 08:32:51 AM »
Cook's post match interview was measured but made clear he was pretty unimpressed by their behaviour.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #319 on: November 24, 2013, 08:37:26 AM »
Yeah we need to come back at them hard and hit them very hard. Our players should be embarrassed that they've performed at that level, but the level of Aussie disrespect has gone to new levels.

I agree, I think maybe this is the short sharp shock we needed - Adelaide will be different , I think we  will see England come back all guns blazing.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #320 on: November 24, 2013, 08:39:31 AM »
Swannies fucking diary should take a rest for a while after that too.

He needs to front up at Adelaide.


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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #321 on: November 24, 2013, 08:48:09 AM »
@Swannyg66: We were completely outplayed this week but rest assured will be back. Thanks to you true fans for your support. Fair weathers can do one.

@KP24: Hey - if we all accept the good days in life, we all have to accept the bad ones! Horrible Test for us that.. 4 to play! 😊

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #322 on: November 24, 2013, 08:57:28 AM »
I'm not fair weather Greame and I thought we were abysmal and you in particular showed very little ticker for it.

I've been home and away in good times and bad as have many other thousands of England supporters, easily the best in the sport. Careful what you Tweet and don't do a Rooney on us.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #323 on: November 24, 2013, 09:02:26 AM »
Yeah careful Swann because supporters can still support and criticise. This England team need to front up.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #324 on: November 24, 2013, 09:16:31 AM »
Can't they stay off their fucking phones for a while and digest their performance.

All the batsmen should be playing in the warm up game, they haven't spent any time in the middle here anyway.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #325 on: November 24, 2013, 10:59:58 AM »
That was a thrashing whichever way you look at it. I'm pessimistic about the rest of the series now. Prove me wrong please lads.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #326 on: November 24, 2013, 11:08:48 AM »
No excuses anymore for not being prepared when we go into series. It happens EVERY time.

Management should also be taking a long look at themselves just like the batsmen should.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #327 on: November 24, 2013, 12:38:12 PM »
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Alastair Cook is prepared to accept "war" on the field during the Ashes series, but accused David Warner of crossing the line in questioning Jonathan Trott's stomach for the fight in an acrimonious end to the first Test in Brisbane.

Cook refused the opportunity to criticise his opposite number Michael Clarke for his part in an angry exchange with Jimmy Anderson in which the Australia captain could be heard through Channel Nine's stump microphone appearing to tell England's No11 to "get ready for a fucking broken arm".

"On the pitch it's pretty much a war, isn't it?" said the England captain, agreeing that arranging back-to-back Ashes series was asking for trouble in that regard. "There are always going to be a few words, and I think that's pretty much how people want to watch cricket being played."

However when asked about Warner's description of Trott's second-innings dismissal by Mitchell Johnson as "pretty poor and pretty weak", Cook said: "I think the comment by David Warner was pretty disrespectful to any professional cricketer really."

There have been suggestions that Warner could be punished under the International Cricket Council's code of conduct, but that would seem unlikely, and Australia are clearly determined to keep up the attack.

Even before their vice-captain Brad Haddin had left the field, he told the former Test opener turned television commentator Michael Slater that Johnson had "seen in their eyes they weren't confident facing him".

When Johnson was asked afterwards whether he had seen fear in Trott's eyes, there was confirmation that England's No3 has now become a target in Australia. "Do you want me to answer that?" Clarke said as Johnson hesitated. When the man of the match finally answered, he said: "I dunno. There were a couple of nice ones that were zinging past his nose where there might have been a little bit of fear there."

Asked again whether he had seen fear in Trott's eyes, Johnson smiled and said nothing. "Good answer, Mitchy, good boy," added Clarke, to general hilarity. For Trott, this is deadly serious.

Cook had admitted: "He's had a tough game, he knows that. But you have to remember the guy is class. He's had a little blip in these last couple of games but he's a class player and class players bounce back. I know he's been working incredibly hard at it and anyone who has seen the net sessions can see he is trying to work on it.

"It is just a matter of him trying to take that into the middle. When the emotion and the pressure of the game is on, it can be quite tough to think as clearly as you need to."

Cook insisted England's problems – against Johnson and more generally –are collective rather than specific to Trott. "We've got to look at the way we're going to play him," he added. "He's bowled well in this Test match, I remember last time he bowled well in Perth and he hurt us there and there's been times in the past when we've played really well against him.

"We can draw on that and we are going to have to be very honest with ourselves in how we go about trying to play him. You can't brush the issue under the carpet, he's hurt us in this game and we're going to have to come back show our ability in the next game.

"This 10 days' break [before the second Test in Adelaide] will be good for us. It'll give us time to get away from it and really work on what we need to do to improve. We all need to be honest with each other as a group. It's not just those three who haven't had a good game – all 11 of us really need to improve if we want to win this series."

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #328 on: November 24, 2013, 12:54:51 PM »
Its all well and good Cook criticising Warners comments.

The big problem is though that Warner is spot on the money. A lot of our batsmen did look like they didn't have the will for the fight.

Oh and Swann can fuck off. To call any section of English cricket fans fair weather is patently ridiculous after the support England have had for the last couple of decades despite being woeful for large periods of it.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #329 on: November 24, 2013, 12:58:27 PM »
Yeah we need to come back at them hard and hit them very hard. Our players should be embarrassed that they've performed at that level, but the level of Aussie disrespect has gone to new levels.

With what though? Our trio of low 80mph bowlers?

 


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