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Offline aj2k77

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #255 on: November 22, 2013, 01:09:24 PM »
I'll allow KP that excuse, but at number 3 there's got to be a degree of expectation that you've got a decent chance of facing the new ball. What's incredibly frustrating is that we struggled to deal with the short ball, and it's not like the Aussies didn't make clear that they would be bowling short balls. We should have been prepared for that.

We were ridiculously negative and slow scoring - you need to attack bowlers and put them on the backfoot - staying at the crease not scoring invites pressure on ourselves and the loss of wickets will follow- we have some hugely attacking batsmen - why are they being stifled ?

Gooch. We are in a rut and definately finding it hard to get out of it, once you have the defensive mindset it's hard to change 180 degree's and start letting go. It's unacceptable that we start each tour poorly. However we are preparing it needs to be binned and go in a different direction.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #256 on: November 22, 2013, 01:22:02 PM »
I agree something is clearly wrong in our batting make up at the moment. Gooch doesn't appear to be doing anything to address it.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #257 on: November 22, 2013, 01:56:48 PM »
Well what happened today or last night is no surprise. Let's face bowlers won the home series and they may still rescue this series for us however the batting has been below par for about 3 years now. Too much reliance on Trott  and Bell and not enough from others. Pietersen .....worlds fail me.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #258 on: November 22, 2013, 02:02:49 PM »
Well what happened today or last night is no surprise. Let's face bowlers won the home series and they may still rescue this series for us however the batting has been below par for about 3 years now. Too much reliance on Trott  and Bell and not enough from others. Pietersen .....worlds fail me.

You haven't been watching Trott much then because he's been the weak link for a while now, his form has been atrocious. Pietersen played well in India and got more runs than Trott in the summer.

Offline eastie

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #259 on: November 22, 2013, 02:09:52 PM »
Well what happened today or last night is no surprise. Let's face bowlers won the home series and they may still rescue this series for us however the batting has been below par for about 3 years now. Too much reliance on Trott  and Bell and not enough from others. Pietersen .....worlds fail me.

You haven't been watching Trott much then because he's been the weak link for a while now, his form has been atrocious. Pietersen played well in India and got more runs than Trott in the summer.

I agree that kp hasn't been consistent for a while but no question trott has been worse - he used to be an anchor we could rely on at one end but he has been tossing his wicket away poorly for a long time - needs reading the riot act , past reputations win nothing.

I would stick with trott but make him aware without doubt his place is at risk.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #260 on: November 22, 2013, 02:11:17 PM »
The thing that surprises me, is that I'm still surprised at the batting line ups continual pathetic showings.

The point PaulWinch made about Trott is the key one for me. He's been nowhere near the level of a test batsman for probably the last 18 months, yet there is absolutely no pressure on his place in the side. That is indicative of the culture which has created an ugly malaise in the batting, where the majority are living on form 2-3 years ago.

Gooch can fuck off and all.

Offline LionVilla

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #261 on: November 22, 2013, 02:33:18 PM »
Well what happened today or last night is no surprise. Let's face bowlers won the home series and they may still rescue this series for us however the batting has been below par for about 3 years now. Too much reliance on Trott  and Bell and not enough from others. Pietersen .....worlds fail me.

You haven't been watching Trott much then because he's been the weak link for a while now, his form has been atrocious. Pietersen played well in India and got more runs than Trott in the summer.
Agreed and what I meant to say by using the word reliance was England have been consistently picking Trott. However he has not delivered and is or should be vulnerable now as an  automatic pick.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #262 on: November 22, 2013, 04:39:41 PM »
Just had a message from someone who is down there for the game - it is currently raining heavily in Brisbane.


Offline spangley1812

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #263 on: November 22, 2013, 04:43:39 PM »
Just had a message from someone who is down there for the game - it is currently raining heavily in Brisbane.



They mentioned it might rain on TMS, apparently its a very quick drying ground

Offline eastie

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #264 on: November 22, 2013, 05:07:24 PM »
Just had a message from someone who is down there for the game - it is currently raining heavily in Brisbane.





They mentioned it might rain on TMS, apparently its a very quick drying ground

They did say that when the rain and storms come they will be like nothing we would ever see in England - bring it on.

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #265 on: November 22, 2013, 05:10:06 PM »
Just had a message from someone who is down there for the game - it is currently raining heavily in Brisbane.



They mentioned it might rain on TMS, apparently its a very quick drying ground

Yes, Glenn McGrath said it would be in the top 3 of world stadia in terms of drainage and can recover from a deluge very quickly.


Offline eastie

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #266 on: November 22, 2013, 05:37:22 PM »
Just had a message from someone who is down there for the game - it is currently raining heavily in Brisbane.





They mentioned it might rain on TMS, apparently its a very quick drying ground

Yes, Glenn McGrath said it would be in the top 3 of world stadia in terms of drainage and can recover from a deluge very quickly.




That's if the rain stops :)

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #267 on: November 22, 2013, 08:33:58 PM »
Rain forecast to stop around 8am with the chance of electrical storms throughout the day

Offline eastie

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #268 on: November 22, 2013, 08:40:21 PM »
Rain forecast to stop around 8am with the chance of electrical storms throughout the day

Hopefully  from 10-01 to 6pm :)

Offline spangley1812

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Re: Ashes 2013/14
« Reply #269 on: November 22, 2013, 08:41:51 PM »
Rain forecast to stop around 8am with the chance of electrical storms throughout the day

Rain has stopped already and its 6:41am.........

 


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