Safe Standing - Fan led consultation - online link - post #43

[Nelly]

Massive respect for doing all that you have done, Amfy.

[Weedy]

No mention AMF,  but a big article in today's Mail on Sunday, with Villa & PF mentioned prominently.
Quite positive.

[amfy]

No mention AMF,  but a big article in today's Mail on Sunday, with Villa & PF mentioned prominently.
Quite positive.

I really hate the Mail, and having to retweet them this morning may be the low point of the campaign. However, it is an excellent article, well researched and very positive. It is a double page spread in print, which looks really impressive, & can be seen onThe Villa Trust fb page without having to actually buy the evil rag.

[Lizz]

Article from the BBC - there is a Villa mention in the list of groups http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25136422

[Mister E]

Article from the BBC - there is a Villa mention in the list of groups http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25136422

Yes, Radio5L featured the recent survey prominently this morning as well.

[Stu]

Article from the BBC - there is a Villa mention in the list of groups http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25136422

The government is not interested in any change to the law at all. Where does the campaign go from here? Where can pressure be applied? Do all 44 Prem and Championship clubs have to say that their official standpoint is for a move into safe standing?

[amfy]

We need 14 premier league clubs to vote in favour if it to take it back for a change in the rules. The pressure is definitely building.

[Clampy]

We need 14 premier league clubs to vote in favour if it to take it back for a change in the rules. The pressure is definitely building.

This is good to hear. I really hope something comes of it.

[Stu]

We need 14 premier league clubs to vote in favour if it to take it back for a change in the rules. The pressure is definitely building.

I really hope it happens. All-seater only football stadia (for the top two tiers of the game) is a totally outdated piece of legislation now, in the days of better policing, CCTV, etc. Not to mention that we're not even arguing for the return of old style terracing.

Will be interesting to see what would happen should the North Stand ever get redeveloped.

[Clampy]

We need 14 premier league clubs to vote in favour if it to take it back for a change in the rules. The pressure is definitely building.

Not to mention that we're not even arguing for the return of old style terracing.

This is what some people who are against it don't get. One chap on Facebook said he was terrified of terracing as a kid and wouldn't take his son onto terracing and it would be like going back into the dark ages.

[dave.woodhall]

We need 14 premier league clubs to vote in favour if it to take it back for a change in the rules. The pressure is definitely building.

Not to mention that we're not even arguing for the return of old style terracing.

This is what some people who are against it don't get. One chap on Facebook said he was terrified of terracing as a kid and wouldn't take his son onto terracing and it would be like going back into the dark ages.

Those sort of people never went to matches in the old days and think football belongs to them.

[paul_e]

The biggest issue with the legislation is that there are so few stadia (across sports and other events) that have to comply fully and are not allowed the discretion to just go ahead and implement rail seating.  Football fans in 2013 are not the same as football fans in the 80s and the suggested standing options are not the same as we had before so for me there shouldn't be a requirement for clubs to pledge support, etc it should just be reviewed because it's out of date.

[Stu]

The biggest issue with the legislation is that there are so few stadia (across sports and other events) that have to comply fully and are not allowed the discretion to just go ahead and implement rail seating.

I was speaking to Amfy about this a few weeks ago. There's a health and safety issue with regards to the concourses possibly not being big enough to cope with the extra numbers rail seating would bring. If rail seating is legalised, it's likely we won't see it in grounds unless new stadiums/stands are built.

[paul_e]

The biggest issue with the legislation is that there are so few stadia (across sports and other events) that have to comply fully and are not allowed the discretion to just go ahead and implement rail seating.

I was speaking to Amfy about this a few weeks ago. There's a health and safety issue with regards to the concourses possibly not being big enough to cope with the extra numbers rail seating would bring. If rail seating is legalised, it's likely we won't see it in grounds unless new stadiums/stands are built.

Would there be an increase in capacity, as far as I'm aware a single rail seat occupies the same space as a normal seat so I wouldn't have thought there would be any legitimate concerns about increased numbers.

[Stu]

The biggest issue with the legislation is that there are so few stadia (across sports and other events) that have to comply fully and are not allowed the discretion to just go ahead and implement rail seating.

I was speaking to Amfy about this a few weeks ago. There's a health and safety issue with regards to the concourses possibly not being big enough to cope with the extra numbers rail seating would bring. If rail seating is legalised, it's likely we won't see it in grounds unless new stadiums/stands are built.

Would there be an increase in capacity, as far as I'm aware a single rail seat occupies the same space as a normal seat so I wouldn't have thought there would be any legitimate concerns about increased numbers.

There's two steps between each rail for standing as I understand it.

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