Safe Standing - Fan led consultation - online link - post #43

[eamonn]

Oh and Frankmosswasmyuncle looks just like I thought he would.

Quite handsome? Most definitely.

[cheltenhamlion]

Alan Green is a fucking prick. I have had the dubious pleasure of him via work a couple of times. Both through his broadcasting, and behaviour on the day, neither surprise me. Tool.

[Louzie0]

Oh and Frankmosswasmyuncle looks just like I thought he would.

Quite handsome? Most definitely.

Seconded.

[Lizz]

Amongst other things, in the middle of match commentaries I've heard Alan Green discuss a Halloween display in his house, a Coronation Street plotline and Wayne Rooney buying a house near his.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Glad to hear it went well Amfy and a massive well done. I was running late otherwise I've have had a walk over. It's also good to hear Paul Faulkner took time out to support it when he probably had a million and one things to do.

Oh and Frankmosswasmyuncle looks just like I thought he would.

Just wondering how I'm supposed to take that Clampy!
Tall, slim, athletic, blonde...rather like Uncle Frank?
Or a haggard old twat in a top I got for a fiver in the club shop sale last May?
No need to tick either box!
;-)

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Oh and Frankmosswasmyuncle looks just like I thought he would.

Quite handsome? Most definitely.

If I give you a kiss will you buy me a pint? ;-)
UTV!



I've posted it elsewhere, but John Darch who brought the safe standing stuff was absolutely brilliant! A real hero. And he made it clear how brave PF was to be the first Prem CEO to support this a few years ago, and how great it was to have the full backing of AVFC. Nice to know that we are again leading the way on something that the supporters clearly want.
And talking of things heroic, amfy has been a brilliant ambassador for Villa fans and the club and I know many of us on here are really appreciative of her efforts.
Well done amfy!

[Chris Smith]

Amongst other things, in the middle of match commentaries I've heard Alan Green discuss a Halloween display in his house, a Coronation Street plotline and Wayne Rooney buying a house near his.

A couple of years ago I almost crashed the car he got me so wound up with some comments he made. I can't remember the specific game but it was an evening kick off and he was having a real rant about people arriving late and spoiling his view. It didn't once occurr to him that perhaps after a day at work the process of getting home, having some dinner then travelling to a game for a 7.45 kick off through all the traffic might cause one or two people not to be seated in time to please Mr Green.

[adrenachrome]

Amongst other things, in the middle of match commentaries I've heard Alan Green discuss a Halloween display in his house, a Coronation Street plotline and Wayne Rooney buying a house near his.

A couple of years ago I almost crashed the car he got me so wound up with some comments he made. I can't remember the specific game but it was an evening kick off and he was having a real rant about people arriving late and spoiling his view. It didn't once occurr to him that perhaps after a day at work the process of getting home, having some dinner then travelling to a game for a 7.45 kick off through all the traffic might cause one or two people not to be seated in time to please Mr Green.

Sums the fuckwitt up succinctly: an egocentric tosspot under the delusion the world revolves around him.

[LeeB]

Amongst other things, in the middle of match commentaries I've heard Alan Green discuss a Halloween display in his house, a Coronation Street plotline and Wayne Rooney buying a house near his.

A couple of years ago I almost crashed the car he got me so wound up with some comments he made. I can't remember the specific game but it was an evening kick off and he was having a real rant about people arriving late and spoiling his view. It didn't once occurr to him that perhaps after a day at work the process of getting home, having some dinner then travelling to a game for a 7.45 kick off through all the traffic might cause one or two people not to be seated in time to please Mr Green.

Sums the fuckwitt up succinctly: an egocentric tosspot under the delusion the world revolves around him.

Given the size of his fat fucking arse, there's every chance it does.

[Villa in Denmark]

Amongst other things, in the middle of match commentaries I've heard Alan Green discuss a Halloween display in his house, a Coronation Street plotline and Wayne Rooney buying a house near his.

A couple of years ago I almost crashed the car he got me so wound up with some comments he made. I can't remember the specific game but it was an evening kick off and he was having a real rant about people arriving late and spoiling his view. It didn't once occurr to him that perhaps after a day at work the process of getting home, having some dinner then travelling to a game for a 7.45 kick off through all the traffic might cause one or two people not to be seated in time to please Mr Green.

Sums the fuckwitt up succinctly: an egocentric tosspot under the delusion the world revolves around him.

In many ways that should make him perfectly qualified to comment on PL footballers.

Alas, as is often the case, the difference between theory and practice only leads to disappointment.

[rob_bridge]

Oh and Frankmosswasmyuncle looks just like I thought he would.

Quite handsome? Most definitely.

If I give you a kiss will you buy me a pint? ;-)
UTV!



I've posted it elsewhere, but John Darch who brought the safe standing stuff was absolutely brilliant! A real hero. And he made it clear how brave PF was to be the first Prem CEO to support this a few years ago, and how great it was to have the full backing of AVFC. Nice to know that we are again leading the way on something that the supporters clearly want.
And talking of things heroic, amfy has been a brilliant ambassador for Villa fans and the club and I know many of us on here are really appreciative of her efforts.
Well done amfy!

Well I have been a critic of Mr Faulkner in the past primarily because some of his actions 2010-2012 were beyond belief.

However I think his actions in overtly supporting this initiative does set him apart from his peers in a really positive manner. So many of the others seem to be sitting on the fence.

Well done to all who are supporting this campaign. I don't even want to stand (anymore) at games but would not wish to deny others the opportunity, particularly those below the age of 30.

Alan Green can go fuck himself. I completely understand he is (still) upset about what he witnessed at Hillsborough, however to be so dismissive without engaging in intelligent debate shows his a a petulant child in the midst of a tantrum.

He also moans about the commentators position at Villa Park - it was moved a few years back apparently. I DON'T CARE - commentate on the match it is what you are paid to do.

[rob_bridge]

Oh and just filled in the survey - apologies it has taken so long.

[tom jennings III]

This should be stickied surely? Very interested to see what happens next.

[amfy]

Sorry for the delay updating - Work has been exceptionally ridiculous for the last couple of weeks , so by the time I have got home, I have just wanted to surf aimlessly rather than do anything serious!

I had a meeting with Paul Faulkner & Lee Preece & we had a look at what we've got so far. They were very impressed and grateful, and feel that it does give them something to take forward.

The thing about a survey rather than a petition is it gives a percentage of support for the idea, rather than a pure number, and this is more impressive. We have also been able to show that all demographics support it, and this is important too.

Next steps are:

I've got to go to Villa Park to do a media thing on the 18th, which will at least go out through the Evening Mail & the official site. This will also give a further push for the survey for fans that haven't already picked it up via forums, twitter & face to face canvassing.

The online survey will only run for about another month and then I'll wrap it up & do some data crunching to work out what it all means. The obvious stuff is 97.5% in favour but I need to look at little closer at how this holds up across various groups (although the overall figure more than suggests it will hold up very well)

FMWMU & I are going to do a further days canvassing on Saturday when we'll be in the Lions Club. The club have been keen to pick up this section of the ground as it's other potential demographics. Here we can pick up some of the supporters club leads who may take some surveys on their coaches, as well as some of our more corporate supporters.

Lee would also like us to get the safe standing roadshow out at The Holte End for a future game this season, so Holte Enders can get a feel for it. My face to face contact has shown that Holte Enders are bizarrely the furthest from being on board with this for a variety of reasons (not a big enough trial, wrong place, we stand up anyway, why don't they just let us stand up anyway, it's not proper standing - all or nothing, forget it)

I have slightly cocked up the numbers but it isn't a big deal. I was adding together the face to face surveys and the online surveys, and made it well over 1000. I didn't realise that Villa were loading the face to face surveys onto the online one! We actually currently have exactly 900, but it won't be a major task to get it to 1000 and I wouldn't expect the figures to change significantly given how it's gone so far.

The survey does give PF something to take to Premier League meetings, both to raise in open forum, and to speak to other CEOs about. The key is going to be to use what we have to get other clubs moving. We need 14 premiership clubs to suppport this and so far I think we have about 6-8. PF can try to do this from where he is, and I will also be using the Supporters Trust to link with other Supporters Trusts to try and get them to do the same thing we have done. If other supporters Trusts can also demonstrate the level of support that we've got, we will be putting together something that can't be ignored. Supporters Trusts up & down the country do work together on issues like this e.g - The Spirit of Shankly's 'Twentys Plenty' campaign has united all fans in a common cause. Trusts are more about common causes than rivalries, even locally.

The key to this is that I have now shown how easy it is. That isn't to say it hasn't been hard work, but it hasn't been anywhere near as hard as I expected. I thought I'd be at it all season, scraping together 20-30 surveys a week - in fact it's taken a couple of months, and people have been generally very positive. This experience will encourage others to follow.

So - don't expect anything major for a while - the next step is very much about getting other clubs moving. This was never going to be an overnight thing, but so far, is moving quicker than expected so let's hope it continues in that vein.

[Simon Ward]

Cheers for the update Amfy. Keep up the good work.