Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Thing is KEA looked out of his depth last season and through being dropped and then injury Lambert looked at other options and we improved a lot in the midfield.

I've no idea how he's found his way back in to be honest

It happens a lot. If they sign them they shoehorn them in. Pride before judgement.

KEA played very well at Arsenal, but Sylla is vital to our midfield. He was an inspired signing really, but he completely changes our game.

[Oscar Arce]

After a bottle of wine and a nice meal my seething anger has subsided to....seething anger.
It is a clear case of Groundhog Day as we have a slight change in personnel but the same shit results.
We still cannot defend, and try to pass the ball through impossibly tight areas, we play a sort of franic football with no cohesion, sort of of the cuff where one touch can be a touch of genius or disaster.
Too much play in the centre of midfield, no width (one cross from Lowton caused Mayhem...why not get players wider and stretch the pitch in tight games such as this.
Defending? If i see Ron Vlarr try another drag-back in his own penalty area I think I'll expolde, too many players of the same 'type' in midfield, and a soft touch at home, I think we are in for another world of pain on that show fellow Villains.
Their no. 7 Sissoko continued a recent trend of 'doubling up' on Benteke, rendering him, and therefore Villa, innefecive, and we must find a way around this if we ony have a one-man threat other players like Gabby must come to the party.
And what happened to Lowton today ? A truly shocking performance, and Weimann looks poor so far, we have options now so Mr Lambert you will have to earn your corn and change things around.

[PaulWinch again]

Vlaar didn't actually play too badly today. The main reason we struggled was our tactics, our sitting midfielders and our right back.

[cdbearsfan]

Well that was utter, utter shit. Newcastle played well but, still, no excuses.

That said, I'm willing to accept an utterly abysmal performance so long as it doesn't happen again any time soon. I expect a much better performance next game. Let's put that crap behind us and move on as soon as possible.

[David_Nab]

Thing is KEA looked out of his depth last season and through being dropped and then injury Lambert looked at other options and we improved a lot in the midfield.

I've no idea how he's found his way back in to be honest

It happens a lot. If they sign them they shoehorn them in. Pride before judgement.

KEA played very well at Arsenal, but Sylla is vital to our midfield. He was an inspired signing really, but he completely changes our game.

Arsenal's midfield is all lightweight ,like KEA that's why he looked ok.Against the likes of Sissoko he is not strong enough and all he can do is pass sideways.

The problems from last season have not gone -

Defence still looks suspect with FB's covering all the width either too deep to be effective attacking wise or up to far leaving us exposed on the break.

Midfield to many side ways passes in the middle and you can't see a goal out of the three of them.In thier defence you see them often looking wide for an option and no one there

Attack Benteke is left isolated and flicking on to no one.The wide 2 like the FB's are doing too much.They are supposed to be getting onto Benteke's flick on's ,provide cross's/pass's to him and cover the FB's when attacking.

Lambert himself says in his post match interview the team can only play one way ..high tempo.But after a year in job and 3 transfers windows you have to ask why this hasn't been addressed.After a performance and result like todays there are going to be knee jerk reactions but the poor defending ,going behind in all 4 games so far ,no plan B other than top loading the team with attackers these are all issues we have had for a while.

Need a much better performance and result against Norwich

[FrankyH]

After a bottle of wine and a nice meal my seething anger has subsided to....seething anger.
It is a clear case of Groundhog Day as we have a slight change in personnel but the same shit results.
We still cannot defend, and try to pass the ball through impossibly tight areas, we play a sort of franic football with no cohesion, sort of of the cuff where one touch can be a touch of genius or disaster.
Too much play in the centre of midfield, no width (one cross from Lowton caused Mayhem...why not get players wider and stretch the pitch in tight games such as this.
Defending? If i see Ron Vlarr try another drag-back in his own penalty area I think I'll expolde, too many players of the same 'type' in midfield, and a soft touch at home, I think we are in for another world of pain on that show fellow Villains.
Their no. 7 Sissoko continued a recent trend of 'doubling up' on Benteke, rendering him, and therefore Villa, innefecive, and we must find a way around this if we ony have a one-man threat other players like Gabby must come to the party.
And what happened to Lowton today ? A truly shocking performance, and Weimann looks poor so far, we have options now so Mr Lambert you will have to earn your corn and change things around.

Vlarr tried to play out our penalty area against Rotherham, and got away with it -just.I remember thinking , you wont get away that in the Premiership.

[Witton Warrior]

Whatever the reasons for today's abject performance, however much people want to say "give it 10 matches", I'm basically fed-up with watching this. It's just not very good is it? Never expected miracles just wanted good football, skill, focus and determination. This is basically rubbish. Season after season of boring rubbish.

[Witton Warrior]

Forgot to say hello to the debutant - did he touch the ball?

[PaulWinch again]

We need a win against Norwich, we also need a change in personnel to send a message that poor performance is not acceptable.

[saunders_heroes]

We look a different team away from home. We're set up as a counter attacking team, so playing at home is as frustrating as hell.

[ozzjim]

It is, but a different team selection and approach is quite clearly needed at home. Teams come, string a full 5 across midfield, get full width with the wide players of the 5 pegging back Luna and Lowton, KEA and Westwood don't move much, so you are left with Delph as the only runner from midfield. Gabby and Weimann naturally come central, we then have 0 width, and 0 idea. We need to change the formation, or approach at home. I even think a 4-4-2 with genuine wingers and 1 behind Benteke would work better as it would at least give us an out. At the moment we are stuck with no out ball.

[Nastylee]

Missed a big trick not getting Barry back for a season. Our loss is Everton's gain as his experience, ability to keep possession and leadership skills would have made such as difference to our shitty midfield. Barry or KEA?

[Damo70]

I thought it was a poor game contested by two teams who looked poor on the day. We looked dodgy at the back, gave the ball away in midfield and impotent up front. I was surprised KEA started and thought he was the worst of a bad bunch. I would play Sylla in his place next game, but then I would have done that today anyway. Weimann's place must be in danger too. I won't go over the top about one performance but it was pretty grim.

[Ads]

Lose against Norwich and we will go to Hull having lost five from six and be in December again.

[PaulWinch again]

Lose against Norwich and we will go to Hull having lost five from six and be in December again.

Yep that's why we must win at Norwich.