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Offline The Man With A Stick

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2013, 08:48:36 PM »
What qualifies as a success though?  Never in a million years will he achieve what Jack Charlton did, the pool of players is nowhere near good enough.

He won't take the job anyway as he knows he'll be on a hiding to nothing, the spineless little tit.  Besides, he's still waiting for Moyes to get the boot so he can finally get the job that he was destined for.

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2013, 08:53:34 PM »
Well the good news is he cant waste millions on transfer money when managing a national team.

Other good news is he is apparently a good man manager.

Bad news for Ireland is if they didnt like old fashioned tactics and a stubborn refusal to change players as they had under Trapp, well, that aint gonna change :)

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2013, 11:15:56 PM »
What qualifies as a success though?  Never in a million years will he achieve what Jack Charlton did, the pool of players is nowhere near good enough.

He won't take the job anyway as he knows he'll be on a hiding to nothing, the spineless little tit.  Besides, he's still waiting for Moyes to get the boot so he can finally get the job that he was destined for.

Unless my synapses are misfiring again, in the last paragraph the second sentence appears directly to contradict the first.

Offline Mossie Hennebry

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2013, 02:02:29 AM »
Listening to the sports bulletin on Today FM (Dublin) going in to work this evening, and the presenter was effectively rooting for O Neill. He mentioned that while he did not do well at Sunderland, it can be seen now that he did a decent job at Villa as look at where they are now. This is a screaming example of the undeserved reputation of Martin O Neill. If he takes the job, he will be found out for once and for all. mind you, it'll probably cost the FAI/Denis O Brien strategic partnership about EUR4m before he is found out.

They also stated that when he was in the running for the England job, he lost out to McClaren because he wasn't prepared to get involved with the grassroots. This should preclude him from getting the Ireland gig, but going on the FAI's previous, it probably won't. Please see 'World-class manager' and the Steve Staunton appointment as an example.

Also, someone asked if we had a big lad up front, and the answer is Conor Sammon.

Anyway, Trap is gone; we need a manager and love him, or loath him, O Neill is about the best of a bad lot available to us.

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2013, 03:02:24 AM »
I found it soul-destroying that Shane Long was playing the role of big lad up-front against Sweden the other night. For a little guy he is superb at winning headers but that we were pinning our attacking hopes on that one "strategy" was lamentable.

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2013, 08:57:53 AM »
I found it soul-destroying that Shane Long was playing the role of big lad up-front against Sweden the other night. For a little guy he is superb at winning headers but that we were pinning our attacking hopes on that one "strategy" was lamentable.
It reminded me of times when Taylor, or O Leary in his later days would try using JPA as a target man, despite the fact he was only 5,11ish and not very strong. That was also why he lost his place under Taylor, and O Leary started to run out of patience with him too. He just happened to be a very good header of the ball.

I would guess O Neill would be more likely to find the closest thing he can to the next Niall Quinn and then play one of his smaller strikers alongside.


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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2013, 09:13:12 AM »
I found it soul-destroying that Shane Long was playing the role of big lad up-front against Sweden the other night. For a little guy he is superb at winning headers but that we were pinning our attacking hopes on that one "strategy" was lamentable.
It reminded me of times when Taylor, or O Leary in his later days would try using JPA as a target man, despite the fact he was only 5,11ish and not very strong. That was also why he lost his place under Taylor, and O Leary started to run out of patience with him too. He just happened to be a very good header of the ball.

I would guess O Neill would be more likely to find the closest thing he can to the next Niall Quinn and then play one of his smaller strikers alongside.

He is probably already looking for a loophole that would allow him to select Heskey.

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2013, 09:37:54 AM »
I found it soul-destroying that Shane Long was playing the role of big lad up-front against Sweden the other night. For a little guy he is superb at winning headers but that we were pinning our attacking hopes on that one "strategy" was lamentable.
It reminded me of times when Taylor, or O Leary in his later days would try using JPA as a target man, despite the fact he was only 5,11ish and not very strong. That was also why he lost his place under Taylor, and O Leary started to run out of patience with him too. He just happened to be a very good header of the ball.

I would guess O Neill would be more likely to find the closest thing he can to the next Niall Quinn and then play one of his smaller strikers alongside.

He is probably already looking for a loophole that would allow him to select Heskey.
Beat me to it :)

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2013, 09:42:08 AM »
How the f*ck did we manage to get 4 pages on this in less than 24 hours? It appears mention of his name on here = light the blue touch paper!

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2013, 09:42:58 AM »
And it should be in "other football".

Offline Damo70

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2013, 09:47:24 AM »
How the f*ck did we manage to get 4 pages on this in less than 24 hours? It appears mention of his name on here = light the blue touch paper!


Second only to Bono. And one place above Jesus, which I'm sure would please him immensely.

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2013, 10:02:44 AM »
I found it soul-destroying that Shane Long was playing the role of big lad up-front against Sweden the other night. For a little guy he is superb at winning headers but that we were pinning our attacking hopes on that one "strategy" was lamentable.
It reminded me of times when Taylor, or O Leary in his later days would try using JPA as a target man, despite the fact he was only 5,11ish and not very strong. That was also why he lost his place under Taylor, and O Leary started to run out of patience with him too. He just happened to be a very good header of the ball.

I would guess O Neill would be more likely to find the closest thing he can to the next Niall Quinn and then play one of his smaller strikers alongside.

He is probably already looking for a loophole that would allow him to select Heskey.
He could possibly get by on the basis that no one remembers Heskey playing for England. Unless the ask the German side circa 2001.

Offline supertom

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2013, 10:10:05 AM »
What qualifies as a success though?  Never in a million years will he achieve what Jack Charlton did, the pool of players is nowhere near good enough.

He won't take the job anyway as he knows he'll be on a hiding to nothing, the spineless little tit.  Besides, he's still waiting for Moyes to get the boot so he can finally get the job that he was destined for.
It'll be tough, and it depends on who they are drawn with. But how many times over the last few years have Ireland been close but poor results against poor opposition have let them down.
We'll see. It's kind of a nothing to lose job in some ways. If you qualify for a tournament you're a hero. If you don't, you can blame the lack of quality and then get out of the job with reputation no better/worse than it was before (as long as you don't finish bottom or something).

Ireland are unfortunate in some ways because of their seeding. I mean if for example England were placed in a group with Germany, Austria and Sweden, we'd struggle to qualify. We'd certainly not finish top. We're actually quite fortunate to have the ranking we do as well. We generally have easy groups.

Trap started off okay, in that they were tough to beat, but hes run out of steam, ideas, and players. Will MON do much better? In as much as that initial burst you get when O Neill comes in. The problem is, can he carry that spark from now until next winter when the next round of tournament qualifiers start?

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2013, 11:29:51 AM »
There's whisperings of Marcelo Bielsa being interested in the job. Can't see it happening myself but would be exactly the sort of appointment I'd like us to try out

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Re: Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2013, 11:38:14 AM »
Quote from:  daily mail
The FAI will approach Martin O’Neill in the next 48 hours to become manager of the Republic of Ireland and the former Celtic and Sunderland boss is willing to discuss terms to replace Giovanni Trapattoni whose five-year reign was ended by 'mutual consent' on Tuesday.
The management committee of the FAI will convene next week to rubber-stamp the appointment of the 61-year-old Derry man who is their only choice to lead Ireland’s Euro 2016 campaign.
With businessman Denis O’Brien on board for at least another two years to fund the wages of another high profile manager, the FAI are poised to make their move for the number one candidate.
VIDEO Scroll down to watch Giovanni Trapattoni axed as Ireland manager

Talks: Martin O'Neill is set to discuss terms with the FAI to become the next Republic of Ireland manager
Their hope is that O’Neill, who has been out of work since he was sacked by Sunderland in March, will be in place to pick the side to face Germany in Cologne before the final World Cup 2014 qualifier at home to Kazakhstan.
Although the new manager will be without first choice centre-backs John O’Shea and Richard Dunne for the German game, they are optimistic he will take the job to go some way to filling the Aviva Stadium for the last competitive fixture until the Euro campaign starts next September.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2418077/Martin-ONeill-FAIs-choice-replace-Giovanni-Trapattoni-Republic-Ireland-manager.html#ixzz2efpBkSvh


 


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