Brigada Corner

[Percy McCarthy]

Viva Brigada
Villa's very own Les Miserables . I can feel a hit musical here in the making.

Including a couple of numbers by The Phil Upchurch Combo and Sam and Dave.

Any guesses?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Hold On, I'm Coming.








Song title folks, not a statement made in the throes of .... thingummy!!!

[LeeB]

I'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.

I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole.

Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.

However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation.

Could be trouble.

There can't be many clubs in the country that has more and better dialogue with supporters, and in particular with this group, but you can't talk to people who won't listen.

I know Dave, but I suppose my frustration is in why the issue is being pushed back more.

In short, why are these football supporters treated differently to spectators of other events?

Because a) rules are different at football grounds and b) these supporters make it clear that on every occasion they will break them.

Fair enough, but couldn't you just refuse to sell them the tickets in the first place, without the snatch squads and filming ban?

I still think more could be done, probably as Cooper says on both sides, to push the issue a bit more.

[dave.woodhall]

Viva Brigada
Villa's very own Les Miserables . I can feel a hit musical here in the making.

What exactly is your problem? The club are, as ever, bending over backwards to try to talk to these people and all you can do is moan and say they've been doing everything wrong lately. Incidentally, what is this litany of mistakes that you keep on about ?

[TheSandman]

I now don't get what's going on. Who's been apologised to? Is it everyone who was ejected on Wednesday, or just some of them?

[silhillvilla]

What's my problem ? It's an opinion is that allowed ?
Well the big mistake is the handling charge applied to ticket sales. Even cash sales.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I don't get Brigada's stance here.
They are in the perfect place to speak to the club on safe standing and help the club push this to the authorities, after all they are exactly what safe standing should be bought back for, to create a part of the ground where young lads can enthusiastically stand, shout, sing, wave flags and support the team without breaking any rules or annoying anyone else in the ground.
Instead of being confrontational and insisting on breaking the ground regulations no matter what, how about a campaign of disgruntled obedience, but at the same time highlighting and promoting the fact that petty rules are preventing you from fully enjoying your matchday experience and Villa Park is poorer in atmosphere as a result?

 And above all WORK WITH THE CLUB NOT AGAINST THEM!

I'm not knocking the club in any way here, but do we have "plans" for working towards safe standing?
I know the club have been very public in expressing support for it, but I am genuinely unaware of any strategy that we can be a part of to help make it happen.
As LeeB says, dialogue with the fans, including Brigada, regarding this would be very welcome, especially in this current situation. I am aware of dialogue being held between the club and Brigada on previous occasions, but the more of us that can support the move for safe standing the better. It doesn't have to be a venture exclusive to involvement by the Brigada lads, if that is what they are after. 

[Surrey Villain]

What's my problem ? It's an opinion is that allowed ?
Well the big mistake is the handling charge applied to ticket sales. Even cash sales.

The club had no say in having to apply a handling charge. I think they applied the minimum possible. It was all explained on the OS.

[TheSandman]

What's my problem ? It's an opinion is that allowed ?
Well the big mistake is the handling charge applied to ticket sales. Even cash sales.

The club had no say in having to apply a handling charge. I think they applied the minimum possible. It was all explained on the OS.

No, it was definitely a mistake. But at the end of the day they reversed the decision and admitted it, something they didn't have to do. As for this, we don't even know if it is a mistake yet. Beyond the usual forum supposition we don't know the whole story.

[silhillvilla]

I don't think I've ever seen a public apology for the McLeish appointment .

[dave.woodhall]

I don't think I've ever seen a public apology for the McLeish appointment .

And how does that equate with "The club have let themselves down again, not for the first time in the last few weeks." and "The club sure knows how to shoot itself in the foot on a regular basis," amongst others?

[dave.woodhall]

What's my problem ? It's an opinion is that allowed ?
Well the big mistake is the handling charge applied to ticket sales. Even cash sales.

Here we go again. Somebody says something, they get challenged and immediately it's "Ooh, I'm not allowed to have an opinion." They made a decision that was unpopular and it was reversed within days. 

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I don't think I've ever seen a public apology for the McLeish appointment .

Can't remember exactly what was said but PF did say something along the lines of doing what they thought was best at the time but it went wrong and they had moved to put it right.
I'm sure someone can come up with the quote or whatever.
I took it as a not particulalrly well-veiled "oops, sorry!".
Apology?
UTV!

[paul_e]

Why would the club ever issue an apology for appointing the wrong manager?  Should it extend to players as well?  How about office staff?

I don't get why some people expect a statement from the club on everything, get a grip.

As for meeting both ways I'm not sure what the club can do if Brigada insist on standing for 90minutes, that's not allowed, end of story, Brigada have to back down over it.  As for safe standing I'm sure anyone interested could contact the club to find out if there is anything the fans can do to help so if you're interested try making contact.  The club has made a clear commitment to the safe standing initiative so the fans need to show that it's something they want to push through, particularly groups like Brigada for whom such an area would be intended.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think I've ever seen a public apology for the McLeish appointment .

Why would you?

How many clubs have ever apologised for a managerial appointment?