Quote from: danlanza on September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PMSend a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.And arrested, hopefully.
Send a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.
Quote from: danlanza on September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PMSend a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.Jackanory time again!
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:10:12 PMQuote from: danlanza on September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PMSend a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.And arrested, hopefully.Pardon?
I'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole. Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation. Could be trouble.
Quote from: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 03, 2013, 09:33:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:10:12 PMQuote from: danlanza on September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PMSend a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.And arrested, hopefully.Pardon?Anyone who sends a threatening letter to anyone, whatever the circumstance - and nobody seriously believes that's the case here - should be arrested.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:43:16 PMQuote from: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 03, 2013, 09:33:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:10:12 PMQuote from: danlanza on September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PMSend a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.And arrested, hopefully.Pardon?Anyone who sends a threatening letter to anyone, whatever the circumstance - and nobody seriously believes that's the case here - should be arrested.In principle, yes.The Brigada threatening letter thing remains a nasty bit of goss in reality then!
Quote from: LeeB on September 03, 2013, 09:50:38 PMI'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole. Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation. Could be trouble.Are you me?
Quote from: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 03, 2013, 10:06:39 PMQuote from: LeeB on September 03, 2013, 09:50:38 PMI'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole. Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation. Could be trouble.Are you me?I dunno, are these Dan's voices that Percy was on about?
Quote from: LeeB on September 03, 2013, 09:50:38 PMI'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole. Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation. Could be trouble.There can't be many clubs in the country that has more and better dialogue with supporters, and in particular with this group, but you can't talk to people who won't listen.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:53:16 PMQuote from: LeeB on September 03, 2013, 09:50:38 PMI'm a boring old twat now who enjoys watching from the Upper Trinity, watching the game closely, but I'm not very happy at all about what seems to have happened here.I don't see why the club can't be more open if there are these issues with the council. If it means a covert operation to remove paying bloody customers, how about maybe having better dialog in the first place, with the supporters as a whole. Maybe, by bringing it to a wider audience, that might bring pressure to the authorities to look again at how they're policing it.However, my guess is that none of those in authority have any desire to see a group of enthusiastic, bright lads forming some kind of organisation. Could be trouble.There can't be many clubs in the country that has more and better dialogue with supporters, and in particular with this group, but you can't talk to people who won't listen. I know Dave, but I suppose my frustration is in why the issue is being pushed back more.In short, why are these football supporters treated differently to spectators of other events?
I don't get Brigada's stance here.They are in the perfect place to speak to the club on safe standing and help the club push this to the authorities, after all they are exactly what safe standing should be bought back for, to create a part of the ground where young lads can enthusiastically stand, shout, sing, wave flags and support the team without breaking any rules or annoying anyone else in the ground.Instead of being confrontational and insisting on breaking the ground regulations no matter what, how about a campaign of disgruntled obedience, but at the same time highlighting and promoting the fact that petty rules are preventing you from fully enjoying your matchday experience and Villa Park is poorer in atmosphere as a result? And above all WORK WITH THE CLUB NOT AGAINST THEM!