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Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #450 on: September 03, 2013, 07:25:02 PM »
A bit of heavy handedness on their part then? Acting on whose authority? BCC/Security or ad lib?
Interesting to see how things pan out with the Brigada lads at the Newcastle game.

From what I can gather they've been leaned on by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and the council's licensing committee, or whatever it's called.
The old H&S bods baring their teeth again!
Cheers Dave; makes it a bit clearer.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #451 on: September 03, 2013, 07:28:33 PM »
Club has apologized to the guys who got banned with out being kicked out, unblocked there STs and even offered a free tour of VP b4 match to let them see the security set up.
So, any "real" reason/explanation given for why they were (badly treated) ejected in the first place?
Just standing?

Rules is rules, and sometimes the people who make up the rules insist that they're seen to be obeyed.
But then apologise for it?
Surely that sends out a bit of a confused message?
Just seems a bit odd in the circumstances and wondered if the lads had any "official" or unofficial explanation behind the apology.

It's worth re-reading what monsXI wrote, the bold bit in particular.

The apology isn't for kicking out people who were standing, it's for banning the people who left in support, at least that's how it sounds to me.  Maybe someone who can face logging on to the Brigada site and has access to the main bit can clarify.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #452 on: September 03, 2013, 07:31:13 PM »
A bit of heavy handedness on their part then? Acting on whose authority? BCC/Security or ad lib?
Interesting to see how things pan out with the Brigada lads at the Newcastle game.

From what I can gather they've been leaned on by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and the council's licensing committee, or whatever it's called.
The old H&S bods baring their teeth again!
Cheers Dave; makes it a bit clearer.

So the 'something more to it' that I put up a few days ago seems to be perfectly correct.  If people thought about the clubs approach to fans a little more most would've reached the same conclusion.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #453 on: September 03, 2013, 07:34:39 PM »
A bit of heavy handedness on their part then? Acting on whose authority? BCC/Security or ad lib?
Interesting to see how things pan out with the Brigada lads at the Newcastle game.

From what I can gather they've been leaned on by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and the council's licensing committee, or whatever it's called.

I know everyone has a job to do and supporter safety should be uppermost on our minds but don't you just love Quangos and their sense of priority. If that's the case maybe a few letters to your local councillor may be in order Raising with them about how council officials are executing their duties.

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #454 on: September 03, 2013, 07:37:35 PM »
Thanks paul_e.
Didn't read it closely enough.
The "something more to it" that we discussed several days ago was a bit too vague to pin on any particular party. "more to it" regarding the Brigada lads' conduct, or behind the actions of the stewards.
Inevitably, combination of both.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #455 on: September 03, 2013, 07:40:53 PM »
A bit of heavy handedness on their part then? Acting on whose authority? BCC/Security or ad lib?
Interesting to see how things pan out with the Brigada lads at the Newcastle game.

From what I can gather they've been leaned on by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and the council's licensing committee, or whatever it's called.
The old H&S bods baring their teeth again!
Cheers Dave; makes it a bit clearer.

So the 'something more to it' that I put up a few days ago seems to be perfectly correct.  If people thought about the clubs approach to fans a little more most would've reached the same conclusion.
Everybody knows the council have Been banging on about standing for years there wasn't something more to it.

Online paul_e

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #456 on: September 03, 2013, 07:50:11 PM »
Brigada clearly didn't or they wouldn't have stated they were going to stand all game!!

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #457 on: September 03, 2013, 07:54:04 PM »
Brigada clearly didn't or they wouldn't have stated they were going to stand all game!!
Neither did I.
Or I wouldn't have stood at any game ever!
Honest!

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #458 on: September 03, 2013, 07:54:13 PM »
Brigada clearly didn't or they wouldn't have stated they were going to stand all game!!
True.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #459 on: September 03, 2013, 08:02:54 PM »
Sorry, but even I know that.
Ergo Brigada are Martians.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #460 on: September 03, 2013, 08:56:40 PM »
Club has apologized to the guys who got banned with out being kicked out, unblocked there STs and even offered a free tour of VP b4 match to let them see the security set up.
So, any "real" reason/explanation given for why they were (badly treated) ejected in the first place?
Just standing?

Rules is rules, and sometimes the people who make up the rules insist that they're seen to be obeyed.
But then apologise for it?
Surely that sends out a bit of a confused message?
Just seems a bit odd in the circumstances and wondered if the lads had any "official" or unofficial explanation behind the apology.

It's worth re-reading what monsXI wrote, the bold bit in particular.

The apology isn't for kicking out people who were standing, it's for banning the people who left in support, at least that's how it sounds to me.  Maybe someone who can face logging on to the Brigada site and has access to the main bit can clarify.

One of those ejected was unbanned and others who had tickets confiscated and ST blocked received the apology.

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #461 on: September 03, 2013, 09:02:19 PM »
Club has apologized to the guys who got banned with out being kicked out, unblocked there STs and even offered a free tour of VP b4 match to let them see the security set up.
So, any "real" reason/explanation given for why they were (badly treated) ejected in the first place?
Just standing?

Rules is rules, and sometimes the people who make up the rules insist that they're seen to be obeyed.
But then apologise for it?
Surely that sends out a bit of a confused message?
Just seems a bit odd in the circumstances and wondered if the lads had any "official" or unofficial explanation behind the apology.

It's worth re-reading what monsXI wrote, the bold bit in particular.

The apology isn't for kicking out people who were standing, it's for banning the people who left in support, at least that's how it sounds to me.  Maybe someone who can face logging on to the Brigada site and has access to the main bit can clarify.

One of those ejected was unbanned and others who had tickets confiscated and ST blocked received the apology.
But not all?

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #462 on: September 03, 2013, 09:05:32 PM »
Send a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #463 on: September 03, 2013, 09:10:12 PM »
Send a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.

And arrested, hopefully.

Offline MonsXI

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #464 on: September 03, 2013, 09:27:02 PM »
Send a threatening letter. That will get you banned, for sure.

Jackanory time again!

 


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