Brigada Corner

[cdbearsfan]

I didn't know it was impossible to sing while sitting down. Quick! Somebody break Bono's legs.

[not3bad]

You only sing when you're seated, sing when you're seated...

[PeterWithesShin]

Stand up, if you got thrown out, stand up, if you got thrown out.

Too soon?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Stand up, if you got thrown out, stand up, if you got thrown out.

Too soon?

This is quite funny PWS!

[cdbearsfan]

Empty seats, My Lord...

[silhillvilla]

Oh sit down, oh sit down, oh sit down

[Ger Regan]

Yeah it does seem heavy handed, but reasonableness is a two-way street. The club seem to be doing everything in their power to try and get safe standing introduced, but until this happens they have to follow the rules. This isn't a case of poor put-upon innocents being persecuted, this group go out of their way to break the rules, so as much as I want standing at matches, they can hardly claim to be surprised if they are ejected.

If the club is doing everything in its power then surely they should tell us that that's what they are trying to do so that we can take that into account and respond in a positive, co-operative way.
Chucking fans out and blocking them from buying tickets seems to be a ridiculously heavy-handed way of dealing with a very minor problem, imho.

It's not a minor problem if the council have, say, threatened stand closures though (and it appears to be an issue being brought up by the council rather than the club). Also my understanding is that stewards have asked them to sit down repeatedly at numerous matches, and they have refused. What other option do they have if they are under pressure from the council to act?

Also, we don't know at this stage if they've been permanently banned from attending, or whether they are waiting to speak to them all directly to discuss this issue prior to allowing them to buy tickets again (assuming they give assurances regarding their behaviour).

Agreed by and large Ger, but as I say, if that is the case then the club need to inform us of the council's apparently stronger line on fans standing if stand/ground closure is the punishment.
We all know standing is against the rules but thousands do it every week and no-one bats an eyelid.
A bit like elbows and hadballs, a bit of consistency would be greatly appreciated from those in charge of these things.

Yeah that's a fair enough point.

[basavfc]

Perhaps there's more to it?

There is.

There is nothing "more" to this other than standing at football matches.

First they came for those that stand,
 and I didn't speak out because I didn't stand.

Then they came for the singers,
 and I didn't speak out because I didn't sing.

Then they came for me,
 and there was no one left to speak for me.

etc etc

[PeterWithesShin]

There are sections of the Lower North and other sections of The Holte that always stand and i've never seen anyone thrown out just for standing. I'll stick to thinking there is likely to be more to it than just standing at a game against Rotherham.

[Witton Warrior]

While not wanting to enter the politics slant of this thread I have to say I was surprised to find that, after moving my ST to the Upper Holte, I had to stand for 80 of the 90 minutes of the Pool match. It seems to be de rigeur to stand and there was no intervention from stewards.

Out of sight out of mind?

[dave.woodhall]

Perhaps there's more to it?

There is.

There is nothing "more" to this other than standing at football matches.

First they came for those that stand,
 and I didn't speak out because I didn't stand.

Then they came for the singers,
 and I didn't speak out because I didn't sing.

Then they came for me,
 and there was no one left to speak for me.

etc etc

Believe me or don't, I'm not fussed.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

While not wanting to enter the politics slant of this thread I have to say I was surprised to find that, after moving my ST to the Upper Holte, I had to stand for 80 of the 90 minutes of the Pool match. It seems to be de rigeur to stand and there was no intervention from stewards.

Out of sight out of mind?

I stood in the Holte End for years - never a problem.
My seat in the Trinity Middle is on the back row - Shock horror! - I stood for the whole of the 2nd half against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'. Not a word from the steward who stood in the aisle 4 seats away.
So, yes, Out of sight out of mind, or as DW suggests, there must be more to it!?

[amfy]

When EVERYONE is standing there is little they can do. On Wednesday there was a small enough crowd to isolate Brigada as persistent standers. Unlike other standers, Brigada refuse to sit when requested. They got them. Still I am  gobsmacked by the heavy handedness of it..
The truth is that we need to properly pursue the club's interest in legal standing. The club need to know that this is what we want and sadly, just standing regardless won't cut it.

[Herman]

I'm guessing that the powers that be have singled out this particular group do to the past disagreements with some of the banners. The standing (as loads of people seem to do without being told to sit), has given the club the opportunity to go after this small but seemingly good natured group of supporters. Perish the thought that anyone should try to create an atmosphere.
Buy some lurid sweatshop nylon, a turd burger and a plastic glass full of piss then sit down, shut up and enjoy the product. Then clap the assorted bunch of mercenaries off the pitch but don't dare have a banner that's remotely critical of the way the best league in the world is run or financed.   
As a second point. If it is connected with the council, is there any council anywhere in the country that has closed sections of any ground due to fans standing? Why BCC should have such an axe to grind with 30 odd lads in a far corner of the Holte is an odd one to me.   

[Lambert and Payne]

There was a small group stood up in the Lower North in block R1. They and a small group towards the back of R2 and R3 always stand up, half of the Upper Holte stands up the whole game. It simply isn't just because of Rotherham

When they 1st came onto the scene, weren't the club worried because a video involving them and a flare?