Brigada Corner

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Perhaps there's more to it?

I'm sure there is.
I don't see the club taking this action without having reason. What I find a little strange is the decision to ban them from away games also?
Have they evidence that the persons involved also stand up at other grounds?
Some serious surveillance work there if true.
 

The vast majority of away fans stand don't they?
Can't remember the last time I sat in my seat at an away game while the game was being played.
It's the inconsistency of the situation that is baffling for me.

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[silhillvilla]

2 seasons ago the Brigada lads were in the lower north and we owe them a lot of credit for adding some atmosphere and originality to that area of the ground. Even back then the stewards were singling them out and regularlyl throwing them out early. Absolutely disgusting from the club. These are lads who are die hard loyal fans who cause no trouble other than to come to games and enthusiastically back the team with great noise and songs. Woeful from the club indeed.

[Ger Regan]

Yeah it does seem heavy handed, but reasonableness is a two-way street. The club seem to be doing everything in their power to try and get safe standing introduced, but until this happens they have to follow the rules. This isn't a case of poor put-upon innocents being persecuted, this group go out of their way to break the rules, so as much as I want standing at matches, they can hardly claim to be surprised if they are ejected.

If the club is doing everything in its power then surely they should tell us that that's what they are trying to do so that we can take that into account and respond in a positive, co-operative way.
Chucking fans out and blocking them from buying tickets seems to be a ridiculously heavy-handed way of dealing with a very minor problem, imho.

It's not a minor problem if the council have, say, threatened stand closures though (and it appears to be an issue being brought up by the council rather than the club). Also my understanding is that stewards have asked them to sit down repeatedly at numerous matches, and they have refused. What other option do they have if they are under pressure from the council to act?

Also, we don't know at this stage if they've been permanently banned from attending, or whether they are waiting to speak to them all directly to discuss this issue prior to allowing them to buy tickets again (assuming they give assurances regarding their behaviour).

[silhillvilla]

They are standing up to clap and sing. It's quite difficult to do that as a group sitting down.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Yeah it does seem heavy handed, but reasonableness is a two-way street. The club seem to be doing everything in their power to try and get safe standing introduced, but until this happens they have to follow the rules. This isn't a case of poor put-upon innocents being persecuted, this group go out of their way to break the rules, so as much as I want standing at matches, they can hardly claim to be surprised if they are ejected.

If the club is doing everything in its power then surely they should tell us that that's what they are trying to do so that we can take that into account and respond in a positive, co-operative way.
Chucking fans out and blocking them from buying tickets seems to be a ridiculously heavy-handed way of dealing with a very minor problem, imho.

It's not a minor problem if the council have, say, threatened stand closures though (and it appears to be an issue being brought up by the council rather than the club). Also my understanding is that stewards have asked them to sit down repeatedly at numerous matches, and they have refused. What other option do they have if they are under pressure from the council to act?

Also, we don't know at this stage if they've been permanently banned from attending, or whether they are waiting to speak to them all directly to discuss this issue prior to allowing them to buy tickets again (assuming they give assurances regarding their behaviour).

Agreed by and large Ger, but as I say, if that is the case then the club need to inform us of the council's apparently stronger line on fans standing if stand/ground closure is the punishment.
We all know standing is against the rules but thousands do it every week and no-one bats an eyelid.
A bit like elbows and hadballs, a bit of consistency would be greatly appreciated from those in charge of these things.

[dave.woodhall]

2 seasons ago the Brigada lads were in the lower north and we owe them a lot of credit for adding some atmosphere and originality to that area of the ground. Even back then the stewards were singling them out and regularlyl throwing them out early. Absolutely disgusting from the club. These are lads who are die hard loyal fans who cause no trouble other than to come to games and enthusiastically back the team with great noise and songs. Woeful from the club indeed.

What would you say if your part of the ground was closed? Would that be the club's fault as well?

[silhillvilla]

2 seasons ago the Brigada lads were in the lower north and we owe them a lot of credit for adding some atmosphere and originality to that area of the ground. Even back then the stewards were singling them out and regularlyl throwing them out early. Absolutely disgusting from the club. These are lads who are die hard loyal fans who cause no trouble other than to come to games and enthusiastically back the team with great noise and songs. Woeful from the club indeed.

What would you say if your part of the ground was closed? Would that be the club's fault as well?

How will you feel when everyone is forced to sit in silence ?

[Legion]

That's hardly likely though, is it?

[spangley1812]

2 seasons ago the Brigada lads were in the lower north and we owe them a lot of credit for adding some atmosphere and originality to that area of the ground. Even back then the stewards were singling them out and regularlyl throwing them out early. Absolutely disgusting from the club. These are lads who are die hard loyal fans who cause no trouble other than to come to games and enthusiastically back the team with great noise and songs. Woeful from the club indeed.

What would you say if your part of the ground was closed? Would that be the club's fault as well?

How will you feel when everyone is forced to sit in silence ?

How is the club forcing people to sit in silence............

[dave.woodhall]

2 seasons ago the Brigada lads were in the lower north and we owe them a lot of credit for adding some atmosphere and originality to that area of the ground. Even back then the stewards were singling them out and regularlyl throwing them out early. Absolutely disgusting from the club. These are lads who are die hard loyal fans who cause no trouble other than to come to games and enthusiastically back the team with great noise and songs. Woeful from the club indeed.

What would you say if your part of the ground was closed? Would that be the club's fault as well?

How will you feel when everyone is forced to sit in silence ?

Nobody is being asked, or forced, to sit in silence. There are no regulations covering such matters. Given that there are regulations covering standing I ask you again:

What would you say if your part of the ground was closed?  And who would you then blame?

[silhillvilla]

Singing whilst seated, really ??

[spangley1812]

Singing whilst seated, really ??

So you can only sing when you stand up.............

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Singing whilst seated, really ??

After years in the Holte End, the most surprising thing for me about moving into the DE stand and now the Trinity, is the lack of active support for the team from the majority of supporters.
Only at the Sunderland game last season did I witness tangible enthusiastic support in the form of singing, and only once we were 3 or 4 goals up.
The best thing about our away support is that the vast majority sing their hearts out and create a great sense of unity and support for the team...and always satanding.
Pretty much what the Brigada lads seem to have been kicked out for, ironically. 

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm convinced there is more to it than just standing against Rotherham. I've had to stand in the Lower Holte and North numerous times and have never seen anyone kicked out just for standing.