Quote from: supertom on July 26, 2013, 10:42:40 PMQuote from: fredm on July 26, 2013, 09:25:45 PMwell I definitely think that these matches have shown that Gardner, Carruthers, Burke, Robinson and, after tonight, Donacien need to go out on loan for the season to see how they perform. Don't think they are up to first team standard at the minute and keeping them at VP playing reserve and under 21 games won't help their development.I'd agree on all them except Gardner. I don't think he's stood out by any means but we need 3 CM's to cover our first choice 3, so he'd be one of those to cover. With injuries, resting etc, we'll need him. Maybe put him out for the first month or two, but not more than that.Carruthers may be close to the first team squad. He does need a bit of an attitude adjustment. He reminds me of Craig Bellamy. I would be a tad worried if Gardner came in as cover, he needs to go out on loan for at least a season to find his feet.
Quote from: fredm on July 26, 2013, 09:25:45 PMwell I definitely think that these matches have shown that Gardner, Carruthers, Burke, Robinson and, after tonight, Donacien need to go out on loan for the season to see how they perform. Don't think they are up to first team standard at the minute and keeping them at VP playing reserve and under 21 games won't help their development.I'd agree on all them except Gardner. I don't think he's stood out by any means but we need 3 CM's to cover our first choice 3, so he'd be one of those to cover. With injuries, resting etc, we'll need him. Maybe put him out for the first month or two, but not more than that.Carruthers may be close to the first team squad. He does need a bit of an attitude adjustment. He reminds me of Craig Bellamy.
well I definitely think that these matches have shown that Gardner, Carruthers, Burke, Robinson and, after tonight, Donacien need to go out on loan for the season to see how they perform. Don't think they are up to first team standard at the minute and keeping them at VP playing reserve and under 21 games won't help their development.
Quote from: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 26, 2013, 10:49:42 PMQuote from: villan from luton on July 26, 2013, 10:40:47 PMHow did Donciean do tonight, was impressed with him at Luton? As a defender, I thought that he was the most commanding of the lot, especially in the air. He certainly staked a claim tonight.Very reminiscent of a young Ugo Ehiogu. Tall, leggy but has some pace once up to stride, good in the air and strong in the tackle.He impressed me at right back the other day too. A season too early perhaps but he's impressive, and if comparing to Ugo, he's roughly the age Ugochuku must have been when he made his debut.
Quote from: villan from luton on July 26, 2013, 10:40:47 PMHow did Donciean do tonight, was impressed with him at Luton? As a defender, I thought that he was the most commanding of the lot, especially in the air. He certainly staked a claim tonight.
How did Donciean do tonight, was impressed with him at Luton?
Don't forget that we don't have a game for 3 weeks and 5 midfielders really should be enough for the first few weeks. So it wouldn't do any harm sending him out on loan for a couple of months.
Steve Rose, good to hear the comments re Donacien, he does look a good prospect. Liked the way Luna was bombing down the flank on Tuesday, though we have to make sure that we keep it a bit tight at the back as well. The other night we only had one holding midfielder, firstly Gardner and then Westwood, fear we will be picked off against good teams playing like this if full backs are too far forward
Quote from: villan from luton on July 26, 2013, 11:55:59 PMSteve Rose, good to hear the comments re Donacien, he does look a good prospect. Liked the way Luna was bombing down the flank on Tuesday, though we have to make sure that we keep it a bit tight at the back as well. The other night we only had one holding midfielder, firstly Gardner and then Westwood, fear we will be picked off against good teams playing like this if full backs are too far forward Sylla will be a defensive player for us.