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Offline Goldie.7

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1320 on: July 30, 2017, 11:50:54 AM »
Not quite. That waste of space is averaging three goals over the same time.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1321 on: July 30, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »
£1.5m wasn't too bad considering we only paid £1m. If they go to £2m or higher we simply must sell. He's alright covering RB but offers very little anywhere else.

He's averaging two goals a season, he's dispensable.
 

That's more than Gabby's managed.

So don't sell a Bacuna because Gabby is shit? How does that work.

Ideally sell them both, they're garbage but we know there are no mug punters around to take a gorm like Gabby off our hands.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1322 on: July 30, 2017, 12:03:59 PM »
£1.5m wasn't too bad considering we only paid £1m. If they go to £2m or higher we simply must sell. He's alright covering RB but offers very little anywhere else.

He's averaging two goals a season, he's dispensable.
 

That's more than Gabby's managed.

So don't sell a Bacuna because Gabby is shit? How does that work.


Where have I said that exactly?
« Last Edit: July 30, 2017, 12:12:00 PM by Clampy »

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1323 on: July 30, 2017, 12:42:04 PM »
Lets hope they come back for Bacuna .....make him think they are Champions League

How do people still bang on about this complete non-story?

Sorry I forgot nobody is allowed to have a different view on things than Dave .......... not a non story at all ....it was a factual statement made

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1324 on: July 30, 2017, 12:45:44 PM »
£1.5m wasn't too bad considering we only paid £1m. If they go to £2m or higher we simply must sell. He's alright covering RB but offers very little anywhere else.

He's averaging two goals a season, he's dispensable.
 

That's more than Gabby's managed.

So don't sell a Bacuna because Gabby is shit? How does that work.


Where have I said that exactly?

A poster mentions that he's averaged 2 goals a season and is dispensable, your reply is Gabby scores less? What is your point? Is there one?


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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1325 on: July 30, 2017, 12:48:03 PM »
As others have said, Bacuna's versatility sets him apart form the likes of Gardner, Tshibola, etc. He's a useful player to have around. Much like Baker, if an offer of £3-£4m came-in, I think it'd be debate-worthy, but for £1.5m, not a chance. You could just see him going to Reading, and Stam turning him into a consistently good player too.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1326 on: July 30, 2017, 12:48:07 PM »
How do people still bang on about this complete non-story?
There forums are all about mis-facts, half truths, made up stuff and loose interpretations and most of all opinionated comments. Keep banging on I say.


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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1327 on: July 30, 2017, 12:55:23 PM »
He was asked in an interview if he'd like to play in CL and like every other player in the country he said yes. I'd be more bothered if he didn't want to play in it.

Amazingly, it was even more innocuous than that.

He was asked "if you came back to the Eredivisie, would you like to play for someone like Ajax or PSV?"

He said, "sure, they play in the Champions League so who wouldn't?"

What the fuck is he supposed to say? "No, I'm saving myself for Nijmegen or Go Ahead Eagles, because in all honesty I've always thought I'm a bit shit"?

And then a bunch of people who can't read past a newspaper headline wet their knickers.

I think the larger issue which has allowed this to become an urban legend is when it was said. It was when the wheels were well and truly coming off at the club. Tensions were incredibly high, and then add to the comment was the Twitter post and photo where he's on holiday somewhere (I think) with a grin on his face. Completely innocuous but given the circumstances surrounding the club, coupled with the CL comment became a stick to continuously beat him with.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1328 on: July 30, 2017, 01:08:40 PM »
£1.5m wasn't too bad considering we only paid £1m. If they go to £2m or higher we simply must sell. He's alright covering RB but offers very little anywhere else.

He's averaging two goals a season, he's dispensable.
 

That's more than Gabby's managed.

So don't sell a Bacuna because Gabby is shit? How does that work.


Where have I said that exactly?

A poster mentions that he's averaged 2 goals a season and is dispensable, your reply is Gabby scores less? What is your point? Is there one?



It was just a comment that it was more than Gabby had managed. I wasn't suggesting we keep him on the back ofit like you suggested i was.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1329 on: July 30, 2017, 02:41:29 PM »
Part of the reason why we conceded so many late goals during Di Matteo's tenure (in my opinion) is that as well as the mental fragility easily enough associated with a recently relegated side we also looked unfit. 

From about the 70th minute onwards, we played as if someone had taken the wind out of our sails.  Bacuna -when he came in for that first win in about 25 years against Reading- played a part in our turnaround.  One of the reasons for that is he was one of the few players we had who could last 90 minutes.

I would have gladly seen him potted last summer, but he responded well last season.  Without ever truly hitting top form.  I think we could get even more from him. Which would be better for us than a derisory £1.5 million or whatever.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1330 on: July 30, 2017, 03:51:08 PM »
The problem is it looks like we have bought 3 players that are not really improvements on Bacuna.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1331 on: July 30, 2017, 04:38:25 PM »
£1.5m wasn't too bad considering we only paid £1m. If they go to £2m or higher we simply must sell. He's alright covering RB but offers very little anywhere else.

He's averaging two goals a season, he's dispensable.
 

That's more than Gabby's managed.

So don't sell a Bacuna because Gabby is shit? How does that work.


Where have I said that exactly?

A poster mentions that he's averaged 2 goals a season and is dispensable, your reply is Gabby scores less? What is your point? Is there one?



It was just a comment that it was more than Gabby had managed. I wasn't suggesting we keep him on the back ofit like you suggested i was.

Everyone has contributed more than Gabby the last few years.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1332 on: July 30, 2017, 04:41:06 PM »
He was asked in an interview if he'd like to play in CL and like every other player in the country he said yes. I'd be more bothered if he didn't want to play in it.

Amazingly, it was even more innocuous than that.

He was asked "if you came back to the Eredivisie, would you like to play for someone like Ajax or PSV?"

He said, "sure, they play in the Champions League so who wouldn't?"

What the fuck is he supposed to say? "No, I'm saving myself for Nijmegen or Go Ahead Eagles, because in all honesty I've always thought I'm a bit shit"?

And then a bunch of people who can't read past a newspaper headline wet their knickers.

I think the larger issue which has allowed this to become an urban legend is when it was said. It was when the wheels were well and truly coming off at the club. Tensions were incredibly high, and then add to the comment was the Twitter post and photo where he's on holiday somewhere (I think) with a grin on his face. Completely innocuous but given the circumstances surrounding the club, coupled with the CL comment became a stick to continuously beat him with.

He also got embroiled in a few confrontations with fans around that time.  I remember him playing a horrendous backpass at Villa Park which gifted Southampton a goal just before half time and then having a frank exchange of opinions with some fans in the Trinity Road stand on his way off. 

I wouldn't be too disappointed if he was sold for a decent price but he wouldn't be on the list of priorities to move out at the moment.  I remember Alex Ferguson saying that he always wanted at least a couple of players in his squad that could play in a number of positions and I do get the impression that Bruce has time for him.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2017, 05:51:58 PM by tomd2103 »

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1333 on: July 30, 2017, 05:12:59 PM »
not putting all the blame on him as the whole lot of them were crap but the reason we are a mid championship team after being relegated is because we keep playing the likes of bacuna etc. We need to get rid of more and he is one of them. He is crap.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1334 on: July 30, 2017, 06:02:08 PM »
As others have said, Bacuna's versatility sets him apart form the likes of Gardner, Tshibola, etc. He's a useful player to have around. Much like Baker, if an offer of £3-£4m came-in, I think it'd be debate-worthy, but for £1.5m, not a chance. You could just see him going to Reading, and Stam turning him into a consistently good player too.
If we could swap Bacuna for Stam??

 


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