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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1275 on: March 09, 2017, 07:06:27 PM »
A rule which, we all know, will be abandoned the second that the offender is wearing a red shirt.

Which contraintuitively would guarantee their demise on Star Trek.
It's a funny old game.

Hmmmm... so we just need to find a way to get Man United on Star Trek?

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1276 on: March 09, 2017, 07:18:35 PM »
A rule which, we all know, will be abandoned the second that the offender is wearing a red shirt.

Which contraintuitively would guarantee their demise on Star Trek.
It's a funny old game.

Hmmmm... so we just need to find a way to get Man United on Star Trek?

I don't reckon them against the Klingons.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1277 on: March 09, 2017, 08:07:31 PM »
A deliberate stamp on the head is worth a game less that putting a hand on an incompetent buffoon.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1278 on: March 10, 2017, 06:53:46 AM »
One thing that watching Championship football has shown me is how difficult the job of the referee and linesman is. The quality is noticeably worse, when you go down just one level of football. These are not 'incompetent buffoons' but some of the best officials in the country trying to do a very difficult job in trying conditions. As others have noted, if you go down to the amateur leagues then officials often face physical abuse. They have to be protected and allowed to do their job as best they can without fear of abuse.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1279 on: March 10, 2017, 07:13:18 AM »
As a qualified ref, I've observed the quality of officiating with interest this season. I'd offer that the Championship games seem to be refereed more liberally: compared with the Prem League, there are harder tackles, players seem to be allowed to hold onto each other and even grapple with each other with impunity, and I've seen more off-the-ball interference (blocking runners).
And, more inconsistency; an example being on Tuesday when Jedi was booked for a first cynical tackle after 2 'udders defenders had got away with the same offence.
In the context of Bacuna's offence, I think the ref got some things wrong taking the context of the game and the timing. But the red was the right decision.
It's the FA that has overreacted.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 07:15:15 AM by Mister E »

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1280 on: March 10, 2017, 07:35:46 AM »
Agree Mr E but I think the FA is a bumbling organisation that uses instances like Bacuna to shore up its image for no nonsense.  The biblical expression about straining at gnats and swallowing camels covers it.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1281 on: March 10, 2017, 07:56:54 AM »
Just a thought ,if the club as an asset ,is now valued at roughly half of its previous worth, does that mean all the recent players brought are worth a lot less than we paid for them? on paper that is.

Offline tony scott

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1282 on: March 10, 2017, 07:57:53 AM »
Oops sorry wrong thread

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1283 on: March 11, 2017, 11:25:21 AM »
As a qualified ref, I've observed the quality of officiating with interest this season. I'd offer that the Championship games seem to be refereed more liberally: compared with the Prem League, there are harder tackles, players seem to be allowed to hold onto each other and even grapple with each other with impunity, and I've seen more off-the-ball interference (blocking runners).
And, more inconsistency; an example being on Tuesday when Jedi was booked for a first cynical tackle after 2 'udders defenders had got away with the same offence.
In the context of Bacuna's offence, I think the ref got some things wrong taking the context of the game and the timing. But the red was the right decision.
It's the FA that has overreacted.

The refs in the lower divisions allow far more physical contact than those in the PL.  I have seen instances this season where what would probably have been a yellow card in the PL and undoubtedly a free kick, has just been ignored by the ref.  The other difference I think is that players do not go down so easily, (probably not got the intelligence!) so they do not force the refs hand as much as in the PL where the meerest of contact usually results in the recipient sprawling to the floor appealing like mad.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1284 on: March 11, 2017, 11:32:18 AM »
As a qualified ref, I've observed the quality of officiating with interest this season. I'd offer that the Championship games seem to be refereed more liberally: compared with the Prem League, there are harder tackles, players seem to be allowed to hold onto each other and even grapple with each other with impunity, and I've seen more off-the-ball interference (blocking runners).
And, more inconsistency; an example being on Tuesday when Jedi was booked for a first cynical tackle after 2 'udders defenders had got away with the same offence.
In the context of Bacuna's offence, I think the ref got some things wrong taking the context of the game and the timing. But the red was the right decision.
It's the FA that has overreacted.

The refs in the lower divisions allow far more physical contact than those in the PL.  I have seen instances this season where what would probably have been a yellow card in the PL and undoubtedly a free kick, has just been ignored by the ref.  The other difference I think is that players do not go down so easily, (probably not got the intelligence!) so they do not force the refs hand as much as in the PL where the meerest of contact usually results in the recipient sprawling to the floor appealing like mad.
True, which shows how bad Kodjia's dive was on Tuesday: comedic acting which desrverdly drew the yellow card.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1285 on: March 12, 2017, 10:52:40 AM »
Think the refs are terrible down here personally, not just poor decisions but they can't control games aswell such as taking ages to signal when a player goes down injured which is why so many games down here have 5-6 minutes added on.

They do have the air of anonymity though...I could barely name one who's reffed us this season while I can still rattle off 3/4 of the prem refs.

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1286 on: March 12, 2017, 02:59:41 PM »
Think the refs are terrible down here personally, not just poor decisions but they can't control games aswell such as taking ages to signal when a player goes down injured which is why so many games down here have 5-6 minutes added on.

They do have the air of anonymity though...I could barely name one who's reffed us this season while I can still rattle off 3/4 of the prem refs.

Totally agree, the refereeing in this division is appalling but the more experienced championship teams use it to their advantage, something we need to catch up with sooner rather than later

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1287 on: July 29, 2017, 07:45:49 PM »
Sky Transfer Centre saying  Villa have rejected a £1.5million bid from
Reading. Adding Reading not prepared to increase their offer.
Based on today's game they can have Lansbury instead.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 07:47:55 PM by Nelson Lodge »

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1288 on: July 29, 2017, 07:48:29 PM »
Lets hope they come back for Bacuna .....make him think they are Champions League

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Leandro Bacuna
« Reply #1289 on: July 29, 2017, 08:17:07 PM »
Not much point selling him for that. Prett good today

 


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