Nicklas Helenius

[Louzie0]

For all the whining surely it is now apparent that Villa are on the right track - have the right manager - and the right attitude to push on and achieve that something special.

Enjoy it ffs.

Yes, because it has been a cacophony of whining around here lately, hasn't it?

FFS.

Think sonlyme might have gone by the more recent posts on this thread and missed the outright cheering elsewhere about all the new signings (feels good typing that) and there's been a lot of cheering!

I'll add another one. Hurray!

[sonlyme]

For all the whining surely it is now apparent that Villa are on the right track - have the right manager - and the right attitude to push on and achieve that something special.

Enjoy it ffs.

Yes, because it has been a cacophony of whining around here lately, hasn't it?

FFS.

Did you read any posts during the season just gone?

Have you in fact - read this thread?

[KevinGage]

For all the whining surely it is now apparent that Villa are on the right track - have the right manager - and the right attitude to push on and achieve that something special.

Enjoy it ffs.

Yes, because it has been a cacophony of whining around here lately, hasn't it?

FFS.

Think sonlyme might have gone by the more recent posts on this thread and missed the outright cheering elsewhere about all the new signings (feels good typing that) and there's been a lot of cheering!

I'll add another one. Hurray!

It would be nice to think that, wouldn't it? Benefit of the doubt, and all that.

Unfortunately he chimes in with this nauseating pish about moaning and 'so called Villa fans' during good times and bad.  Clearly nobody is as good a Villa fan as sonlyme. He's ace.  Hopefully we'll get some visual aids soon too. 2/3 pictures of footballers or managers with curious expressions on their face.  That's always a real hoot.

Apart from that weird spat between Greg and PWS, the reaction to this signing (as with all the others) has largely been positive.

[villa kicks]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

[supertom]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

I think in certain situations we can play Benteke and Helenius together, if we're trying to bombard teams in a more stylish, elegant Stoke kind of way. We wouldn't necessarily have to switch to two up front either. Benteke is more than capable of shifting wide. At times he's look brilliant attacking fullbacks. And he'll still find ample space, normally ramraided all by himself, to get a good shot away.
I would also think that many of the young players last season would have had more rest time, if not for the lack of suitable replacements. That's something that Lambert seems to be readily identifying. I think he'll have two players for every position, all very capable of interchanging without affecting the quality too much.
Benteke of course is our one player who's on a different level, who'd be missed a lot.

[paul_e]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

I think in certain situations we can play Benteke and Helenius together, if we're trying to bombard teams in a more stylish, elegant Stoke kind of way. We wouldn't necessarily have to switch to two up front either. Benteke is more than capable of shifting wide. At times he's look brilliant attacking fullbacks. And he'll still find ample space, normally ramraided all by himself, to get a good shot away.
I would also think that many of the young players last season would have had more rest time, if not for the lack of suitable replacements. That's something that Lambert seems to be readily identifying. I think he'll have two players for every position, all very capable of interchanging without affecting the quality too much.
Benteke of course is our one player who's on a different level, who'd be missed a lot.

There were plenty of times late in the season where Benteke moved wide left and Gabby was more central, I'd like to think that Benteke and Helenius could both play that 'wide target man' role as well as a more classic central striker role.  The tactical flexibility it gives to be able to put big men on the full backs and pace in the centre is important to help breakdown the 'bus parkers'.

[eastie]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

Good , we want people who are going to fight to earn a place in the team and not be happy picking up their wages off the bench.

[pauliewalnuts]

For all the whining surely it is now apparent that Villa are on the right track - have the right manager - and the right attitude to push on and achieve that something special.

Enjoy it ffs.

Yes, because it has been a cacophony of whining around here lately, hasn't it?

FFS.

Did you read any posts during the season just gone?

Have you in fact - read this thread?

Yes, I did read a lot of posts in the season just gone, but there appears to be no whining now, least of all in this thread.

There also appears to be a general level of positivity, and nobody currently seems to be need to be told to "enjoy it, FFS", either.

I can barely remember a time of more unity on here. There's no need to start going on about people whining, whether it be now or over the last season. What's the point?

[sonlyme]

Any chance of keeping the thread on the topic of Niklas Helenius rather than giving it over to yet more personal grudges however deeply if irrationally held?

[nigel]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

Good , we want people who are going to fight to earn a place in the team and not be happy picking up their wages off the bench.

Agree, eastie

[chrisw1]

Any chance of keeping the thread on the topic of Niklas Helenius rather than giving it over to yet more personal grudges however deeply if irrationally held?

you were the one who went off on one about people moaning FFS.

[onje_villa]

Along with Okore, I'm most excited about this (potential) signing. Every player seems to have a video whacking in goals from all angles but it's the way he takes them that strikes me. He seems like a really thinking player with no shortage of quality. Would be a great addition I reckon.

[Matt Collins]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

wide roles? Isn't he 6 foot 5? It'd be like having Ian Ormondroyd again. A bit 80s.

[danlanza]

Any chance of keeping the thread on the topic of Niklas Helenius rather than giving it over to yet more personal grudges however deeply if irrationally held?

Has there not been enough arguments over the last few days without starting another one ? Just an observation like.

[dave.woodhall]

Helenius has stated he doesn't want to move and be on bench. I think he will be ready to compete for a place - one of the wide attacking roles or up top. It would be interesting to see how he and big Ben would play. 

wide roles? Isn't he 6 foot 5? It'd be like having Ian Ormondroyd again. A bit 80s.

Now there's a thing. Ormondroyd was regarded as a bit of a freak. Now players that size are not exactly the norm, but neither are they rare. I blame Thatcher.