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Offline dave shelley

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #240 on: June 12, 2013, 01:10:57 PM »
I don't think there was any goading involved. It was classic Greg Nash passive aggression. Wanting to be right even when he's wrong; wanting to be the injured party when he's obviously not.

You are right Damon, as I stated in my post Greg dug himself into a hole he couldn't get out of and resulted to insult.

It's a fine line trying to be controversial in your argument and crossing over to being insulting.  PWS deserves an unreserved apology not one that is slightly veiled as IMO Greg's was.  If that is forthcoming and accepted then perhaps a reconsideration may be looked into.

Most of us abide by site rules but, there are always going to be those that think the rules are for everyone else, just not them.

Without so-called controversial posters like Greg the site would be bland and boring which it isn't and that's the reason he should be given one last warning.  It would also remain to be seen whether or not he would wish to come back.

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #241 on: June 12, 2013, 01:12:28 PM »
I've heard his demands are £20k a week with a £500k signing on bonus,

I kinda like him too but I cant see us paying that to get him posting again.

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #242 on: June 12, 2013, 01:14:44 PM »
I can imagine the reaction of my missus if I came to bed at 4.30am and explained that i'd been arguing with someone on the internet about whether a Villa manager should have been sacked six months ago.

Offline eastie

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #243 on: June 12, 2013, 01:14:47 PM »
Villa talk are tracking the gnasher , quick get him back whatever it takes !
It will be like like Saunders leaving us and turning up at the sty :(

Offline eastie

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #244 on: June 12, 2013, 01:18:10 PM »
I've heard his demands are £20k

a week with a £500k signing on bonus,

I kinda like him too but I cant see us paying that to get him posting again.

Mr woodhall has deep pockets laden with gold so i understand :)

Offline danlanza

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #245 on: June 12, 2013, 01:18:39 PM »
Just a thought. If Gnash is banned and has no access to the forum, how the hell is he going to be able to appologise ?
Is he going to tie a note to a pigeons leg or summat ?
We could be waiting for a while if that is the case.

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #246 on: June 12, 2013, 01:22:06 PM »
I agree, asking for an apology when someone calls you a liar despite you piling evidence that you aren't is perfectly reasonable.  Trying to avoid that apology and adding insults is a bit childish.  Not sure this on it's own would be a ban but gnasher has had a few run ins like this where, even when he's proven to be wrong, he refuses to concede the point and instead becomes quite petty.  Having strong and/or controversial opinions is fine but sticking to them bullishly and being condescending to people who prove you wrong isn't something I want on this site, personally.  I love H&V because the community is a lot more mature than any other fansite I've been on so when the conversations descend to playground arguments I can understand the mods being quite strict with people.

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #247 on: June 12, 2013, 01:22:50 PM »
You know that thing where a referee reaches in his pocket for a second yellow, and with his other hand points to three or four spots on the pitch where he's let things go?

That's what's happened here, it seems to me. Anyone who thinks this is a straight red out of nowhere hasn't been paying attention.

Offline danlanza

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #248 on: June 12, 2013, 01:31:53 PM »
Crucifiction ? One cross each, turn to the left.

Offline eastie

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #249 on: June 12, 2013, 01:37:43 PM »
You know that thing where a referee reaches in his pocket for a second yellow, and with his other hand points to three or four spots on the pitch where he's let things go?

That's what's happened here, it seems to me. Anyone who thinks this is a straight red out of nowhere hasn't been paying attention.

Thes things happen, we've mostly been here for years , all sometimes things get heated - i respect both Greg and pws and they are both decent men - it can be patched up and forgotten , it was the early hours , people get tired and can go too far - we are all friends give or take the odd couple of losers and we know who they are .

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #250 on: June 12, 2013, 01:42:27 PM »
You know that thing where a referee reaches in his pocket for a second yellow, and with his other hand points to three or four spots on the pitch where he's let things go?

That's what's happened here, it seems to me. Anyone who thinks this is a straight red out of nowhere hasn't been paying attention.

Thes things happen, we've mostly been here for years , all sometimes things get heated - i respect both Greg and pws and they are both decent men - it can be patched up and forgotten , it was the early hours , people get tired and can go too far - we are all friends give or take the odd couple of losers and we know who they are .

Yeah you t**t.  ;)

Seriously what has happened happened. Can we, as I requested (listened to here less than at home by the children is depressing) talk about Helium balloon please!

Offline jonzy85

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #251 on: June 12, 2013, 01:44:24 PM »
The exchange between nash and pws was embarrassing for both parties, they should swap numbers and do it on their own time.

Nash's original point, while expressed fairly negatively, has some validity.

Lose Bent, get in Helenius. That leaves us with 3 rookie Pl strikers and Gabby (Bowery as well I suppose). As well as the front 3 performed in the 2nd half of the season and I genuinely do expect both Weimann and Benteke to kick on, it might not go as smoothly.

It's not my opinion though, I am delighted to be going for a player like this, who I am sure Lambert has scouted thoroughly. We all know Bent is on his way and Lambert is never going to buy a like-for-like to replace him. It is another sign of him changing the whole dynamic of the squad. Dunne gone, Hutton finished at Villa, Given off on loan most likely, Bent will go....Ireland is the problem one. I would prefer to see 1 or 2 players with more experience in there, 1 centre back and 1 centre midfield. But I don't think the inexperience factor will be as much of an issue next year, by virtue of the fact that they all have a full season under their belts.

Offline Slaphead

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #252 on: June 12, 2013, 01:47:36 PM »
This whole situation is the moderators fault. They never normally allow individual player threads until a player has actually signed and often close them no matter how close the deal is. In this case they seemed to have made an exception thus creating "bad juju" and changing the course of humanity.

Offline damon loves JT

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #253 on: June 12, 2013, 01:56:36 PM »
At least this way Greg will be able to concentrate on his career as a Timelord.

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: Nicklas Helenius
« Reply #254 on: June 12, 2013, 02:05:25 PM »
Or using the search function.....

 


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