Nicklas Helenius

[Greg N'Ash]

Can't say i'm too impressed exchanging a kid for Bent presumably.

You seriously thought Lambert would go for any other option?

Well i'd have hoped next season didn't rely on Benteke continuing to score 19 goals  because lets face it, we still have the same defence and if he's out we got erm... gabby, Bowery and Weimann.  Probably get 19 in total.

Don't forget the Fonz.

Also, you make it sound like the transfer window's already shut. It's only just begun and we've already signed one player and shown significant interest in another, it's not as if we won't sign new defenders.

well that's the hope. Look this guy could turn out to be another Benteke but he's very much in the no-one knows catagory. I want a bit of experience in the team and by that i don't mean old men but someone born in the 1980's at least

I don't think many established forwards who have already made a name for themselves would come to sit on our bench.  And nor should they, in all honesty, if they have a bit about them.   Paying £40k +  for a reserve forward doesn't seem consistent with our approach for the past 12/18 months either. And that's probably how much it would take (minimum)  to tempt that sort of player. 

He has a chance to come in and make a name for himself.  As a bit part player at first, but the likelyhood of more games if he impresses.  If he doesn't, we haven't taken to much of a hammering financially.  Makes sense to me.

An English based forward of a similar age and playing to a similar standard (I'd guess the Danish league is somewhere between the Championship and League One quality wise) would probably cost £4/5 million and a fair chunk in wages.

Well my view if you sell someone like Bent you should be looking for similar quality. I wouldn't be looking for a reserve but someone who would bench gabby say and frankly Gabby as much as i like him will never be a top striker.

[Greg N'Ash]

Two months before the start of the season and Greg isn't happy? Say it ain't so Joe.

We stayed up by the skin of our teeth. Of course i'm worried.

Which is more than you expected us to do. By a long way. So start believing Greg, it's a lot more fun!

meh. Don't believe in the happy clappy believe stuff. Got us nowhere under MON. We just about got into the last week of the season without worrying about being relegated, and we still have a porous defence and a squad a few injuries away from disaster. I'll start believing we're safe from relegation when we start finishing a bit further up the table.

We still stayed up. You were convinced we wouldn't. Maybe, just maybe things aren't actually as bad as you want to believe.

And you lose a lot of credibility points for the happy clapper cliché.

you're the one playing the 'told you so' card when the reality is he was doing just as bad as some of clubs around us who changed their manager and stayed up. We had a really bad season and if we do it again, i will again be calling for his head

But I did tell you so Greg, and I was right. You just didn't want to believe. Might be time to accept that I know more than you 

as i said, someone else could have took over and we'd still be up, Just like TSM could have been sacked in january  last season and we'd have  still stayed up. Degrees of mediocrity and hardly something to brag about.

[dave.woodhall]

Two months before the start of the season and Greg isn't happy? Say it ain't so Joe.

We stayed up by the skin of our teeth. Of course i'm worried.

Which is more than you expected us to do. By a long way. So start believing Greg, it's a lot more fun!

meh. Don't believe in the happy clappy believe stuff. Got us nowhere under MON. We just about got into the last week of the season without worrying about being relegated, and we still have a porous defence and a squad a few injuries away from disaster. I'll start believing we're safe from relegation when we start finishing a bit further up the table.

And even then you'll still be saying Doug's really in charge.

I think even Doug never spent so little money on so many unknowns. He must be fuming he sold up.

Given that you admit he did sell, will you now pay that bet you welched on?

[Greg N'Ash]

Two months before the start of the season and Greg isn't happy? Say it ain't so Joe.

We stayed up by the skin of our teeth. Of course i'm worried.

Which is more than you expected us to do. By a long way. So start believing Greg, it's a lot more fun!

meh. Don't believe in the happy clappy believe stuff. Got us nowhere under MON. We just about got into the last week of the season without worrying about being relegated, and we still have a porous defence and a squad a few injuries away from disaster. I'll start believing we're safe from relegation when we start finishing a bit further up the table.

And even then you'll still be saying Doug's really in charge.

I think even Doug never spent so little money on so many unknowns. He must be fuming he sold up.

Given that you admit he did sell, will you now pay that bet you welched on?

no, because that wasn't the wager

[PeterWithesShin]

But I did tell you so Greg, and I was right. You just didn't want to believe. Might be time to accept that I know more than you 

as i said, someone else could have took over and we'd still be up, Just like TSM could have been sacked in january  last season and we'd have  still stayed up. Degrees of mediocrity and hardly something to brag about.

I'm just bragging that I know more than you Greg.

And we could have changed manager like you wanted us to and gone down. And if my auntie had etc etc But i'll stick to what actually happened, which is what I said would happen back when you wanted Lambert gone and gave us no chance of staying up. That we would stay up and we would pass 40 points.

[dave.woodhall]

Two months before the start of the season and Greg isn't happy? Say it ain't so Joe.

We stayed up by the skin of our teeth. Of course i'm worried.

Which is more than you expected us to do. By a long way. So start believing Greg, it's a lot more fun!

meh. Don't believe in the happy clappy believe stuff. Got us nowhere under MON. We just about got into the last week of the season without worrying about being relegated, and we still have a porous defence and a squad a few injuries away from disaster. I'll start believing we're safe from relegation when we start finishing a bit further up the table.

And even then you'll still be saying Doug's really in charge.

I think even Doug never spent so little money on so many unknowns. He must be fuming he sold up.

Given that you admit he did sell, will you now pay that bet you welched on?

no, because that wasn't the wager

Go on, tell us what your excuse for not paying this time was.

[Greg N'Ash]

But I did tell you so Greg, and I was right. You just didn't want to believe. Might be time to accept that I know more than you 

as i said, someone else could have took over and we'd still be up, Just like TSM could have been sacked in january  last season and we'd have  still stayed up. Degrees of mediocrity and hardly something to brag about.

I'm just bragging that I know more than you Greg.

And we could have changed manager like you wanted us to and gone down. And if my auntie had etc etc But i'll stick to what actually happened, which is what I said would happen back when you wanted Lambert gone and gave us no chance of staying up. That we would stay up and we would pass 40 points.

you know no more than me when you thought MON was Jesus, when you thought bottom of the table OGS was the man for us, and when you wanted TSM out the door. At least my views are normally based on performance rather than "belief"

[Greg N'Ash]

Two months before the start of the season and Greg isn't happy? Say it ain't so Joe.

We stayed up by the skin of our teeth. Of course i'm worried.

Which is more than you expected us to do. By a long way. So start believing Greg, it's a lot more fun!

meh. Don't believe in the happy clappy believe stuff. Got us nowhere under MON. We just about got into the last week of the season without worrying about being relegated, and we still have a porous defence and a squad a few injuries away from disaster. I'll start believing we're safe from relegation when we start finishing a bit further up the table.

And even then you'll still be saying Doug's really in charge.

I think even Doug never spent so little money on so many unknowns. He must be fuming he sold up.

Given that you admit he did sell, will you now pay that bet you welched on?

no, because that wasn't the wager

Go on, tell us what your excuse for not paying this time was.

I think you need to bring the original thread up as you brought it up  rather than waffling.

[Toronto Villa]

It wouldn't be the greg we know and love if he wasn't putting a negative spin on another positive day. If must be killing him that things are actually looking up. He's like Hades, from the depths of the underworld he thrives and derives his strength from then misery of Villa fans in the world above.

[dave.woodhall]

The original thread is long lost, so why don't you remind us of the time you claimed that a few months was two and no more, and Doug being president meant he was still in charge.

[Greg N'Ash]

The original thread is long lost, so why don't you remind us of the time you claimed that a few months was two and no more, and Doug being president meant he was still in charge.

how convenient.

[dave.woodhall]

The original thread is long lost, so why don't you remind us of the time you claimed that a few months was two and no more, and Doug being president meant he was still in charge.

how convenient.

For you, certainly.

[PeterWithesShin]

But I did tell you so Greg, and I was right. You just didn't want to believe. Might be time to accept that I know more than you 

as i said, someone else could have took over and we'd still be up, Just like TSM could have been sacked in january  last season and we'd have  still stayed up. Degrees of mediocrity and hardly something to brag about.

I'm just bragging that I know more than you Greg.

And we could have changed manager like you wanted us to and gone down. And if my auntie had etc etc But i'll stick to what actually happened, which is what I said would happen back when you wanted Lambert gone and gave us no chance of staying up. That we would stay up and we would pass 40 points.

you know no more than me when you thought MON was Jesus, when you thought bottom of the table OGS was the man for us, and when you wanted TSM out the door. At least my views are normally based on performance rather than "belief"

I never thought MON was Jesus, but nice try. Difference is I am man enough to admit I was wrong about OGS. I was wrong to want McLeish out? So we should have kept him?

Face it Greg, you just can't handle it being pointed out that you spent months saying the same thing and it was wrong.

[Greg N'Ash]

The original thread is long lost, so why don't you remind us of the time you claimed that a few months was two and no more, and Doug being president meant he was still in charge.

how convenient.

For you, certainly.

Well I assume you class yourself as a journalist of sorts. I suggest you check your sources

[tomd2103]

Can't say i'm too impressed exchanging a kid for Bent presumably.

You seriously thought Lambert would go for any other option?

Well i'd have hoped next season didn't rely on Benteke continuing to score 19 goals  because lets face it, we still have the same defence and if he's out we got erm... gabby, Bowery and Weimann.  Probably get 19 in total.

Don't forget the Fonz.

Also, you make it sound like the transfer window's already shut. It's only just begun and we've already signed one player and shown significant interest in another, it's not as if we won't sign new defenders.

well that's the hope. Look this guy could turn out to be another Benteke but he's very much in the no-one knows catagory. I want a bit of experience in the team and by that i don't mean old men but someone born in the 1980's at least

I don't think many established forwards who have already made a name for themselves would come to sit on our bench.  And nor should they, in all honesty, if they have a bit about them.   Paying £40k +  for a reserve forward doesn't seem consistent with our approach for the past 12/18 months either. And that's probably how much it would take (minimum)  to tempt that sort of player. 

He has a chance to come in and make a name for himself.  As a bit part player at first, but the likelyhood of more games if he impresses.  If he doesn't, we haven't taken to much of a hammering financially.  Makes sense to me.

An English based forward of a similar age and playing to a similar standard (I'd guess the Danish league is somewhere between the Championship and League One quality wise) would probably cost £4/5 million and a fair chunk in wages.

Well my view if you sell someone like Bent you should be looking for similar quality. I wouldn't be looking for a reserve but someone who would bench gabby say and frankly Gabby as much as i like him will never be a top striker.

He certainly gave a good impression of one in the final few months of last season.  I would add that he has to begin producing that form on a more consistent basis though.