Help with FourFourTwo article

[sanglesey]

Hi - Looking for Villa fans with memories/stories of how the NF tried to use football as a recruiting ground in the 1970s and early 1980s, and what that meant at Villa. Part of a wider piece on football and the NF. If you can help, please reply here or drop me a line: steve.anglesey@mirror.co.uk

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[TheMalandro]

I'm guessing this is not the Northumberland Fusiliers

[TheMalandro]

By the way, if you want some inside transfer information, Defoe is going to sign for Villa this summer.

[curiousorange]

Get me a job at Four Four Two and I'll sing like a canary.

[peter w]

Villa have never had a right-wing mentality and so I'd venture that the NF would have been wasting their time with us. Try the other mob up the road.

[mrastonvilla]

Isn't there a story about them being removed from villa park back in the day by an anti right wing fan group?

[Ger Regan]

Villa have never had a right-wing mentality and so I'd venture that the NF would have been wasting their time with us. Try the other mob up the road.

Hmmmm, not too sure about that. Maybe not a large section of the support, but as with any club, there are elements there I'd wager.

[Villadroid]

Requests like this always amaze me with their sheer brass neck.

It is bad enough that a journo should try to get other people to do work he will get paid for, but why the frigging-fuck would any fan want to make a contribution to an article, which if it made the edit, would show their club in a bad light?

[curiousorange]

What if it showed the club and its fans in a good light?

[Ads]

Villa have never had a right-wing mentality and so I'd venture that the NF would have been wasting their time with us. Try the other mob up the road.

The prior to the Zulus, the Noses Apex mob were the NF lot in Brum.

[Percy McCarthy]

Villa have never had a right-wing mentality and so I'd venture that the NF would have been wasting their time with us. Try the other mob up the road.

The prior to the Zulus, the Noses Apex mob were the NF lot in Brum.

It was certainly rife at B-lose, but from what I recall the Apex might have been when things started to change for the better as I know a black bloke who was in it as well as a white anti-racist. The Tilton End though was full of NF skins in the late seventies, while our firm had plenty of prominent black members. One of their lot was actually a candidate for the NF, more than once I think, and I reckon quite a few of them haven't changed their views, but keep quiet only because they're shit-scared of certain black people down there.

[Brend'Watkins]

I know of a Nose who is known by the name 'National Front - Norm' (As in Norman). He must be 60 or so now.  He has issues and is not of right mind, not "harmless" as people seem keen to point out.

[not3bad]

Does that mean the NF never even attempted to recruit at Villa?  I kind of imagined they would have tried all of the first division teams in the 70s.

[Percy McCarthy]

I know of a Nose who is known by the name 'National Front - Norm' (As in Norman). He must be 60 or so now.  He has issues and is not of right mind, not "harmless" as people seem keen to point out.

Yes, I remember his song:

Norman, Norman,
Naughty naughty Norman,
Don't be a ******, join The Front
With naughty naughty Norman.

Stood for election in Hodge Hill I believe.

[Percy McCarthy]

Does that mean the NF never even attempted to recruit at Villa?  I kind of imagined they would have tried all of the first division teams in the 70s.

Bulldog, the paper of the young NF, used to publish a 'league of louts'. They'd tried to sell it as a measure of which clubs were the hardest, but in reality it was just a monthly list of the top ten clubs for sales of National Front News. B-lose were always in it, Villa never were.

I think the close proximity of Danny Brown was quite off-putting for NF recruitment officers.