Aston Villa vs Chelsea Post-Match Thread

[eastie]

To be honest I thought the only thing the ref got wrong was not to send off Benteke for the elbow.

Benteke should have gone but so should terry .

[Jimbo]

To be honest I thought the only thing the ref got wrong was not to send off Benteke for the elbow.

What about Terry smashing Andi in the face, unpunished? Or the penalty claim in the last few minutes?

[SashasGrandad]

He's been watching Alan Shearer videos - he made a career out of doing that.

[OCD]

I enjoyed the physio's arse.

With her around it's worth getting the odd knock and making a big deal of it.

[danno]

Just back, none of sky tv, the weather, the ref, fat fwank or the result could ruin today.

I'm proud of the team, how we've been playing since January and that in our club captain
we have the absolute antithesis to that oik J.T.

Was great seeing Stan and thanking the manager and players for giving us our Villa back.

That may be overstating it a little bit but I think about that Bolton game last year, and the contrast
in attitudes on the pitch and in the stands is both staggering and heartening.

[SashasGrandad]

From the Telegraph's live match thread:

"Anyhow. In all the excitement, Big John Terry fell awkwardly and he has been stretchered off. That's a shame for him."

I hope it hurts ( a lot)

[PeterWithesShin]

Back home. John Terry is a ******. The only player i've ever been happy to see stretchered off. Because he's a ****** and sums everything I hate about the modern game.

Although on Witton Lane pre-match when I was selling the fanzine was another example. Someone, i'm assuming Sky, decided to film me. I immediately said no thanks, don't film me. They carried on. I said no again. They carried on. I finally stuck my hand across the lens and said fuck off I said no. They seemed put out I didn't want to be filmed as though I should have been grateful. Fucking wankers.

P.s.
John Terry is a ******.

[SashasGrandad]

Why didnt the whole squad come out for the lap of appreciation? looked like just todays squad.

Lowton, Clark and Bannon were there in smart suits

Dunne was in the corporate boxes eating all the left over pies

Ireland was out shopping - to try and spend some of the cash he has taken from us for doing SFA.

Given had an appointment with his divorce lawyer.

[Clampy]

Ref set his stall out right at he start when he booked Baker for a perfectly good tackle.

Beat me to it. It was'nt even a foul and even if it was, a better referee would have told him the next one will be yellow. Instead he set the tone of the game with tho bookings that followed. Someone earlier said that he handled a difficult game well. It was only difficult because he made it difficult.

[Big Dick Edwards]

Disappointed to lose but I was very pleased with our performance against 12 men for 60 minutes. Sylla was outstanding.

[tomd2103]

Just can't understand what was in Westwood's mind (very little i suspect) with his poor clearance which lead to Chelsea's second goal.

He was knackered. Should have been subbed 10 mins earlier.

Yep, a number of the lads looked tired towards the end of the game.  Westwood's attempted clearance certainly smacked of one made by a weary player.  Despite the result, I thought it was an enjoyable game and seeing Stan walking round the pitch after the game put things into perspective.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot - I can't stand John Terry. 

[paul_e]

Dangerous play requires a degree of intent that just wasn't there

No it doesn't. It just has to be dangerous play, whether you mean it or not.

The exact terminology used is 'careless', 'reckless' and 'using excessive force'.

The sanctions are foul, yellow and red respectively.  So Mason judged it as Reckless.  The definition of reckless is "means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent".  Do you honestly think that applies to the challenge that Benteke got his 2nd booking for?

Yes. I don't think he intended to hurt Terry or that he deliberately went for him (if he had, then it would have deserved a red card), but just by not being aware of him being there and his high foot making contact, it's reckless.

Similar to Nani's against Real Madrid (which most people thought should have been a caution rather than a red card). If he's following the ball and isn't aware of other players that his foot might come into contact with that's his fault. It's not malicious and certainly not using excessive force but I'd definitely say it was reckless.

Bit slow to respond on this, had to go shopping:

Careless is defined as: "...player has shown lack of attention or consideration..." (I can't be bothered to type the whole thing, but that's the important bit.  To me raising your foot like he did without ever having looked who was around is a 'lack of attention' rather than a 'complete disregard of the danger to his opponent'.  As I said, for me Ramires falls on the disregard side because he raised his foot chest high knowing full well a player was coming in to try to get a head on the ball, Benteke had no idea what Terry was doing behind him as he never looked and therefore showed a lack of attention.  Hence a 2nd yellow for Ramires was correct, but Benteke should have been warned not booked, going by the rules.

Page 8 if you want to read the definition, I can understand Lambert being pretty pissed about that one, and Terry staying on was a bit of a pisstake as well.

**EDIT**  Watching it again Gabby isn't trying to get a head on it, the ball was gone and he's trying to run after it.  More importantly Ramires had done another one about 2 seconds earlier (which was actually the worse of the 2 as he was stretching out studs first and caught Sylla on the foot, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the one he's given yellow for).

[barrysleftfoot]

 Just got back.

 Have to say PL has unearthed another beast of a player in Sylla.At times the best player on the pitch, power ,pace,skill, aggression, nice pass, but hes not yet fully fit for 90 mins.

 Delph is starting to look a very good player as well, takes responsibility, and tries to drive the team foward.

 Special mention for the 2 FBs as well, who i thought were both very good.

 The difference today was in the final 1/3rd.Our inability to pick the right ball, the through ball, take a player on, and their ability to do that was the difference in the sides.
 We have just played the Champions of Europe, and we did'nt look out of place.
 Really excited for next year tbh.

[nigel]

To be honest I thought the only thing the ref got wrong was not to send off Benteke for the elbow.

WHAT!!!!!
Were you watching a different game to the rest of us? Or are you a closet Chelsea fan?

Terry should have gone 1st half for the foul on Sylla when through on goal.
I haven't time to list all the others

[nigel]

Back home. John Terry is a c***. The only player i've ever been happy to see stretchered off. Because he's a c*** and sums everything I hate about the modern game.

P.s.
John Terry is a c***.

This.

Personally, I hope he's snapped his achilles, or whatever he hurt, and it ends his career.