Aston Villa vs Chelsea Post-Match Thread

[paul_e]

Just got back and I am absolutely furious!

The referee (Lee Mason?) was absolutely shocking, how can he call himself a referee?

John Terry epitomises everything I dispise in today's modern footballer, he is a scumbag and vile with it!

After Terry got Benteke sent off only one team was going to win that game, we just capitulated after that whereas before that I seriously thought we would go on and win the game.

P.S. I hope the referee got his lift back on the Chelsea coach okay?

Dont be so ridiculous. Benteke should have gone earlier for the elbow. The ref got both decisions right.

He probably should've got a red for the elbow but he didn't, he got a yellow.  That doesn't make the 2nd yellow the correct decision, Mason was waiting for Benteke to do anything so he could send him off (I'm sure someone will have pointed out that the elbow should've been red) and he won the lottery when the incident happened to be similar to the 2nd yellow for Ramires.

I'd have taken Benteke off at half time because I thought then that the ref was going to try to even it up and Benteke was the easy option.

[Summers]

Just got back and I am absolutely furious!

The referee (Lee Mason?) was absolutely shocking, how can he call himself a referee?

John Terry epitomises everything I dispise in today's modern footballer, he is a scumbag and vile with it!

After Terry got Benteke sent off only one team was going to win that game, we just capitulated after that whereas before that I seriously thought we would go on and win the game.

P.S. I hope the referee got his lift back on the Chelsea coach okay?

Dont be so ridiculous. Benteke should have gone earlier for the elbow. The ref got both decisions right.

I presume that you weren't there to comment from your armchair but obviously don't let that stop you!
I assume that Terry's elbow didn't count then?

Just lost any measure of credibility with that armchair comment.

[Dave]

Dangerous play requires a degree of intent that just wasn't there

No it doesn't. It just has to be dangerous play, whether you mean it or not.

[olaftab]

Benteke out for final game is a problem. I really fucking hate Chelsea.

I really fucking hate their fans. Wankers spent most of second half almost on the pitch. On the other hand their team is good. They were much much better than us in the last 20 mins and they won the game. But I hate the club chelsea.

[Summers]

Just got back and I am absolutely furious!

The referee (Lee Mason?) was absolutely shocking, how can he call himself a referee?

John Terry epitomises everything I dispise in today's modern footballer, he is a scumbag and vile with it!

After Terry got Benteke sent off only one team was going to win that game, we just capitulated after that whereas before that I seriously thought we would go on and win the game.

P.S. I hope the referee got his lift back on the Chelsea coach okay?

Dont be so ridiculous. Benteke should have gone earlier for the elbow. The ref got both decisions right.

He probably should've got a red for the elbow but he didn't, he got a yellow.  That doesn't make the 2nd yellow the correct decision, Mason was waiting for Benteke to do anything so he could send him off (I'm sure someone will have pointed out that the elbow should've been red) and he won the lottery when the incident happened to be similar to the 2nd yellow for Ramires.

I'd have taken Benteke off at half time because I thought then that the ref was going to try to even it up and Benteke was the easy option.

This is a point I made to someone elsewhere. Whether Benteke SHOULD have seen red earlier or not shouldn't make a difference to anything after that incident.

[Monty]

Mason was lenient with Benteke first time and slightly harsh second time, but both decisions were justifiable. I thought he handled a difficult game very well.

[taylorsworkrate]

I thought we played really well today, for large parts of the game we were excellent. I thought Delph in particular was outstanding

As brilliant as he's been, Benteke definitely cost us 3 points today by being completely braindead. The precedent had been set for the high foot being a yellow and Christian should have been aware of this (He should have been off for the elbow imo). It is one of the most pointless sending's off i've seen and came at a time when Chelsea looked a beaten team and we'd have surely added more goals considering how easily in control we were.

That being said, Wigan will not be beating Arsenal as they are simply not good enough to. So no need to worry really.

[paul_e]

Dangerous play requires a degree of intent that just wasn't there

No it doesn't. It just has to be dangerous play, whether you mean it or not.

The exact terminology used is 'careless', 'reckless' and 'using excessive force'.

The sanctions are foul, yellow and red respectively.  So Mason judged it as Reckless.  The definition of reckless is "means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent".  Do you honestly think that applies to the challenge that Benteke got his 2nd booking for?

[taylorsworkrate]

Absolute suicide today.  Gutless and stupid.

Well Benteke was incredibly stupid yes, and cost us a guaranteed 3 points.

However, apart from that we played well against a side that have spent an absolute fortune and were incredibly unlucky not to get at least a point. Gutless is a ridiculous word to use in this instance.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Not so long ago I would never have believed you if it had been said we should've beaten Chelsea last home game of the season and dominated them in parts of the game.

We've come a very long way and I look forward to next season in the Premier League.

We may not win trophies, but I like the way we're attacking teams now and I can't remember the last time I thought that!

[Jimbo]

There appears to be a low intelligent quotient running through this team. Either that or it's inexperience, because we often do the stupidest things to cost ourselves points. Still, who expected us to beat Chelsea? We gave a good account of ourselves, and this was always going to go down to the Arsenal v Wigan match, or beyond.

[SoccerHQ]

Dismal defending for both Fat Fwank goals.

I think that's harsh on the first one, ain't seen it again but main recollection was Lampard turning and hitting it into the top corner from about 20 yards so not a lot that can be done unless you're the type of fan who expects a defence to restrict the opposition to no shots at goal in a game. That was huge for Chelsea to get it back to 1-1 so soon after the red card

Second one yeah I never feel comfortable when the opposition start getting into 1 v 1 position and run with pace against any of our back 4 tbh but you could just the same against Cahill's awful attempt to stop our goal.

[Dave]

Dangerous play requires a degree of intent that just wasn't there

No it doesn't. It just has to be dangerous play, whether you mean it or not.

The exact terminology used is 'careless', 'reckless' and 'using excessive force'.

The sanctions are foul, yellow and red respectively.  So Mason judged it as Reckless.  The definition of reckless is "means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent".  Do you honestly think that applies to the challenge that Benteke got his 2nd booking for?

Yes. I don't think he intended to hurt Terry or that he deliberately went for him (if he had, then it would have deserved a red card), but just by not being aware of him being there and his high foot making contact, it's reckless.

Similar to Nani's against Real Madrid (which most people thought should have been a caution rather than a red card). If he's following the ball and isn't aware of other players that his foot might come into contact with that's his fault. It's not malicious and certainly not using excessive force but I'd definitely say it was reckless.

[kippaxvilla2]

Typical fcuk in Villa.  That is all.

[SoccerHQ]

I totally agree with Lambert. Sums it up perfectly:

Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert told BBC Sport: "We should have won the game. I thought we looked great and played good football, we had a good tempo. Some of the decisions today were bizarre. The referee missed the John Terry one, he's taken down Yacouba Sylla. You've got to be big enough to make that decision.

"We were so far in control of that game. We didn't deserve that - we were excellent.

"I thought we should have had a penalty. There were so many decisions that were poor."

Yellow was correct imo, Cole was right in the middle of the incident a second later.

I would've preferred Terry to stay on when he was injured as he might've done something stupid and got himself sent off rather than bring on Ivanovic who is very good to have at the back when teams throw crosses into the box.