Lambert: I want to build a top team

[rob_bridge]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

[danlanza]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Spot on with this for me. Nail on head type thingy.

[pauliewalnuts]

Agreed, VCTM. Lumping on every attacking player on our books was reminiscent of a playground kickabout.

True, but I watched Dortmund do exactly the same in a bid to get themselves in the Champions Cup semis.

And it worked.

But when Marco Reus is doing the lumping, aiming for Lewandowski it's more likely to work than Bannan lumping it towards Ciaran Clark.

To be fair, other than that and the fact that we were playing Bradford City and not Real Madrid Malaga it was indeed as Lee says, 'exactly the same'.

If you're going to take the piss, at least get the teams right.

The point I was making, which of course sailed over your head, was that the tactics employed are often used by other top coaches when in a desperate situation in a tie.

The only problem with us is that it didn't work.

I have a lot of time for Lambert, and am certainly having no truck with the three or four "sack him and get Curbishley in!111!!!!" posters on here, but the problem with Bradford wasn't just that it didn't work, it was that he resorted to it way too early.

The first half, it was men against boys, it was embarassingly one sided in our favour. We kept the ball from them, they chased around a bit, but looked like a team from several divisions below us.

We then go to shit from a corner 10 mins into the second half and almost immediately resort to panic mode.

There were 35 minutes left. What we should have done was what we did in the first half - kept our heads, and kept plugging away.

Big mistake from Lambert on that one.

[LeeB]

I may concede that paulie.

[dave.woodhall]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

[pauliewalnuts]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Totally agree.

Over the last few years, on several occasions, we have looked distinctly like we don't know our arses from our elbows. The speed of the cutting back on spending has been absolutely nuts - as much as I buy into the general concept, look where we've spent the last three years, and we're still at risk of going down. We're also still seeing expensive, high waged, non contributing players walking away for nothing. I doubt any other club has come near us for the number of players we've seen sit out contracts (contracts they should not have got in the first place) and then walk away for nothing.

That is rank bad management of the playing assets of the club.

As someone said to me, Man City get their Chief Exec from Barcelona, Chelsea took one from Man United.

We got ours from a credit card call centre in Chester.

[pauliewalnuts]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

In fairness, lots of people did. Certainly about things like the wage bill (where General Krulak - before he legged it off to Scumbag Poly with our marketing slogan - told us not to worry about it, they knew what they were doing), and obviously the McLeish appointment.

[dave.woodhall]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

In fairness, lots of people did. Certainly about things like the wage bill (where General Krulak - before he legged it off to Scumbag Poly with our marketing slogan - told us not to worry about it, they knew what they were doing), and obviously the McLeish appointment.

But they didn't criticise everything they now moan about. 

[pauliewalnuts]

Not every thing no, but the things mentioned above, people moaned about every one of them at the time.

There's no doubt, they sometimes get stick for things they don't deserve to get stick for. I am sure there are those who will slate them whatever they do. But the last few years, we've seen a catalogue of mistakes from them, and the playing assets of the club have been dreadfully managed. That sort of thing is entirely their fault.

Ultimately, we've spent hundreds of millions of pounds, to end up in awful financial trouble, with a gigantic wage bill, and a squad of championship kids, teetering on the verge of relegation. Over the last few years, someone has dropped some serious clangers to get us into that situation.

I don't have any problem with Randy if he wants to detach himself from the club and just pop over for the odd match. If that's the way he sees his involvement, then that's his decision. But, if that is the way he is going to do it, then he absolutely must have people running things over here who are totally on top of their game.

That's not the way it looks these days, and it hasn't for years.

[villan from luton]

We know there have been major issues, but I echo the comments of a few people who actually admire the way Lambert is trying to turn the club around. If and I know it is a big if, we can survive, I can see us progressing and that has not been the case in recent times

[dave.woodhall]

Not every thing no, but the things mentioned above, people moaned about every one of them at the time.

There's no doubt, they sometimes get stick for things they don't deserve to get stick for. I am sure there are those who will slate them whatever they do. But the last few years, we've seen a catalogue of mistakes from them, and the playing assets of the club have been dreadfully managed. That sort of thing is entirely their fault.

Ultimately, we've spent hundreds of millions of pounds, to end up in awful financial trouble, with a gigantic wage bill, and a squad of championship kids, teetering on the verge of relegation. Over the last few years, someone has dropped some serious clangers to get us into that situation.

I don't have any problem with Randy if he wants to detach himself from the club and just pop over for the odd match. If that's the way he sees his involvement, then that's his decision. But, if that is the way he is going to do it, then he absolutely must have people running things over here who are totally on top of their game.

That's not the way it looks these days, and it hasn't for years.

I agree with most of what you've said there, particularly with regards to the lack of experienced football people. However, to put everything together in a box marked 'incompetence' is wrong. 

[ciggiesnbeer]

I like Lamberts Philosophy and the style of football he wants to play (we dont yet, but we are getting there).

I just wish I could enjoy it. Fighting a relegation battle at the same time is hard as hell.

[Irish villain]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

In fairness, lots of people did. Certainly about things like the wage bill (where General Krulak - before he legged it off to Scumbag Poly with our marketing slogan - told us not to worry about it, they knew what they were doing), and obviously the McLeish appointment.

But they didn't criticise everything they now moan about. 

In fairness, as things happen, general fans like us can't be expected to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes so it is a bit unfair to say we can't weigh up the evidence of where we have gone over the past three years and conclude that yes, indeed, we were run very badly simply because we weren't critical while some of it was happening.

[dave.woodhall]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

In fairness, lots of people did. Certainly about things like the wage bill (where General Krulak - before he legged it off to Scumbag Poly with our marketing slogan - told us not to worry about it, they knew what they were doing), and obviously the McLeish appointment.

But they didn't criticise everything they now moan about. 

In fairness, as things happen, general fans like us can't be expected to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes so it is a bit unfair to say we can't weigh up the evidence of where we have gone over the past three years and conclude that yes, indeed, we were run very badly simply because we weren't critical while some of it was happening.

Enough of what the original claim states was public knowledge.

[rob_bridge]

I would'nt say we're a badly run club from top to bottom. Mistakes have been made and we should'nt be where we are. I don't think we've reached the comical levels shown by the boards at Wolves and Blackburn.

Bold statement is that.

I give you TSM. Yes he was here for 11 months. It wasn't a dream. I'll raise you MON spunking loads  of money on rubbish/average and being allowed to run up a wage bill up to 88% of turnover. I give you paying him lots of money to keep quiet after he did The runner. I give you hiring an ill arrogant has been who showed disrespect for our club that even O'Leary couldn't come close to matching. I give you player ill discipline on too many occasions. I give you players trying to beat up a club legend. I give you a completely out of his depth credit card marketing manager who couldn't talk more shit if it were scripted for him as the man who runs the club.

I don't think we have anything to crow about.

Did you say anything at the time?

The wage bill aside, because I didn't know about the extent of it, then yes - however I have only been writing on here post O'Neill (he had my full support until March 2009).
You'll find no comments in support of that arrogant has been Houllier or TSM, both utterly perplexing and the only 2 managers I couldn't make a case for  - though I wrote a supporting comment when trolls were laying into you for meeting the latter after he joined.
If you can find a comment (from me) supporting Faulkner (as it was he who hired Houllier demonstated that he is a child in an adult's world) then my account must have been hacked.