Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours

[villan from luton]

ozzyjim, it shut in May for Arsenal

[olaftab]

We should not sign any players on loan. Whether they are developing payers or on their way out it only helps the other club involved. Aston Villa is not there to help out our rivals.

[Dante Lavelli]

We should not sign any players on loan. Whether they are developing payers or on their way out it only helps the other club involved. Aston Villa is not there to help out our rivals.

Man City are not currently our rivals.  And I cannot see how us having Milner on loan would help fulham, everton, southampton etc.
I think we massively under use the loan system.  It's our chance to get players we could never afford to play at the club.  Look at Lukaku at WBA for example.  He probably lifted them 2 or 3 positions in the league last year.

[Dave]

We should not sign any players on loan. Whether they are developing payers or on their way out it only helps the other club involved.

We may well have been relegated had we not signed Robbie Keane on loan two years ago.

Which club apart from us did that help?

[olaftab]

Keane is an exception. Generally loaning a player mean we give a developing player more game time and help his club (spurs and Walker) or  reduce the wage burden for a rival.
Man city play in the same league as us so they are our rivals. We are not there to help them out because they have a massive overhead.

[Dave]

Man city play in the same league as us so they are our rivals. We are not there to help them out because they have a massive overhead.

I'm pretty sure that Man City's accountants aren't having any sleepless nights about the size of their wage bill.

[olaftab]

How do you know? Accountants always have sleepless nights to my knowledge!

[Clampy]

I think loans are fine as long if there's a chance that you may be able to keep the player in question. Lukaku did immensely well for the Stripeyfilth last season but he was never going to sign for them and now they're relying on a 34 year old sulky Frenchman to fill his boots.

[danno]

another day praying for the return of James Milner?   

Ashley Young, lets explore the non possibility of getting him back too.

In all seriousness I like Milner, but I'd rather Sylla got his chance to show what he's made of.

[Monty]

Milner's not really a creative player though. He's capable of creative things and makes and scores his fair share, but he's essentially a bustler and a labourer, and I'd rather stick with the ones we've got and get one more midfielder - the creative one that we don't already have at that.

[Steve67]

We won't be doing Man City any favours by taking Milner on loan if they don't really want him any more, other than by paying some of his wages that is!

Boudebouz and Ba in by Monday please Mr Lambert.

[richard moore]

We should not sign any players on loan. Whether they are developing payers or on their way out it only helps the other club involved. Aston Villa is not there to help out our rivals.

Man City are not currently our rivals.  And I cannot see how us having Milner on loan would help fulham, everton, southampton etc.
I think we massively under use the loan system.  It's our chance to get players we could never afford to play at the club.  Look at Lukaku at WBA for example.  He probably lifted them 2 or 3 positions in the league last year.

Really? I can't stand us loaning players, it's not how I see the status of my club at all. I have absolutely no desire to develop other teams' players for them

[PeterWithesShin]

If we hadn't taken Milner on loan the first time we may well have never signed him.

[Dante Lavelli]

We should not sign any players on loan. Whether they are developing payers or on their way out it only helps the other club involved. Aston Villa is not there to help out our rivals.

Man City are not currently our rivals.  And I cannot see how us having Milner on loan would help fulham, everton, southampton etc.
I think we massively under use the loan system.  It's our chance to get players we could never afford to play at the club.  Look at Lukaku at WBA for example.  He probably lifted them 2 or 3 positions in the league last year.

Really? I can't stand us loaning players, it's not how I see the status of my club at all. I have absolutely no desire to develop other teams' players for them

Really. In an ideal world it would but I'm increasingly seeing players and commodities these days or pieces of plant.

[paul_e]

Loans have a place, but the terms have to be right.  Robbie Keane was great, he added guile and impetus at the right time and helped us get a few points that kept us out of danger, however we could've done with him being with us a bit longer.

Walker was excellent, he was a key part of us becoming a very exciting teams in the 2nd half of that season, but not agreeing a permanent fee that we could trigger at any point in the loan was a huge mistake.

So both had positives and negatives, largely because we allowed the other team to have the better part of the deal.

Loan of younger players - add in a fee to trigger a permanent transfer, if they do well you trigger it and have continuity, you won't get everyone to agree but you should always try to get it in there.  For older players try to get in a clause to extend the loan if things are going well.