Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours

[ozzjim]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

[pauliewalnuts]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

FFS, these loans get on my tits.

We could do with recouping some of the sum we forked out on Bent (and he's not the only one). I'd rather take 3m than have him out on loan, pointlessly.

[saunders_heroes]

The sooner loans between Premier League clubs are banned the better.

[Concrete John]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

FFS, these loans get on my tits.

We could do with recouping some of the sum we forked out on Bent (and he's not the only one). I'd rather take 3m than have him out on loan, pointlessly.

In terms of how it effects our ability to bring in more new players, I'd say that the wages are more important than the fee.  So, if they're picking up his full wages, I'd class a loan as a necessary evil.

[pauliewalnuts]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

FFS, these loans get on my tits.

We could do with recouping some of the sum we forked out on Bent (and he's not the only one). I'd rather take 3m than have him out on loan, pointlessly.

In terms of how it effects our ability to bring in more new players, I'd say that the wages are more important than the fee.  So, if they're picking up his full wages, I'd class a loan as a necessary evil.

Take your point, but I am not at all sure we should be writing off fees in favour of wages, money in for players can help.

Get into the habit of loaning him and at the end of it, we lose - for nothing - a player we paid 18m for. Loan him and part or all of his salary gets paid. Sell him and the salary is off the books, plus we've got some of the capital investment back.

Thinking about it, have we actually sold anyone this summer?

When was the last time we did? Did we get anything for Makoun in the end?

Dunne, Holman, Lichaj, Cuellar, Warnock, Heskey, Collins - I reckon Collins is the only one of that lot to fetch a fee.

[Clampy]

At least he won't be able to play against us seeing as it's a loan.

[TimTheVillain]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

FFS, these loans get on my tits.

We could do with recouping some of the sum we forked out on Bent (and he's not the only one). I'd rather take 3m than have him out on loan, pointlessly.

In terms of how it effects our ability to bring in more new players, I'd say that the wages are more important than the fee.  So, if they're picking up his full wages, I'd class a loan as a necessary evil.

Info coming in that Palace are paying £40k of his weekly wages - I guess that leaves us with £25k.

Then a bonus of £2 million if he helps Palace to stay up.

So we still 'own' him, but he costs £25k per week and we can sell him next year.

Good deal ? It's the best we've had apparently.

[Concrete John]

Get into the habit of loaning him and at the end of it, we lose - for nothing - a player we paid 18m for. Loan him and part or all of his salary gets paid. Sell him and the salary is off the books, plus we've got some of the capital investment back.

If you sell him and the buyer won't pay him what we are, then we pay the difference.  If he's got two years left and any nuyer pays say £40k a week, then you're looking at anything up £4m of the fee going to Bent, dependent on what his exact wages are.

My own issue with it the basics of why nobody is willing to pay the market rate striker with his proven scoring record.  And for me, that's a bare minimum of £8m and £60k a week.       
 

[pauliewalnuts]

Get into the habit of loaning him and at the end of it, we lose - for nothing - a player we paid 18m for. Loan him and part or all of his salary gets paid. Sell him and the salary is off the books, plus we've got some of the capital investment back.

If you sell him and the buyer won't pay him what we are, then we pay the difference.  If he's got two years left and any nuyer pays say £40k a week, then you're looking at anything up £4m of the fee going to Bent, dependent on what his exact wages are.

That is the same with a loan though - they're not going to be paying his full salary, necessarily, and after a year, the player is worth even less.

[pauliewalnuts]

Telegraph saying it's a loan for Bent

FFS, these loans get on my tits.

We could do with recouping some of the sum we forked out on Bent (and he's not the only one). I'd rather take 3m than have him out on loan, pointlessly.

In terms of how it effects our ability to bring in more new players, I'd say that the wages are more important than the fee.  So, if they're picking up his full wages, I'd class a loan as a necessary evil.

Info coming in that Palace are paying £40k of his weekly wages - I guess that leaves us with £25k.

Then a bonus of £2 million if he helps Palace to stay up.

So we still 'own' him, but he costs £25k per week and we can sell him next year.

Good deal ? It's the best we've had apparently.

He's going to Fulham now, by the looks of it.

[Concrete John]

Get into the habit of loaning him and at the end of it, we lose - for nothing - a player we paid 18m for. Loan him and part or all of his salary gets paid. Sell him and the salary is off the books, plus we've got some of the capital investment back.

If you sell him and the buyer won't pay him what we are, then we pay the difference.  If he's got two years left and any nuyer pays say £40k a week, then you're looking at anything up £4m of the fee going to Bent, dependent on what his exact wages are.

That is the same with a loan though - they're not going to be paying his full salary, necessarily, and after a year, the player is worth even less.

Neither is an ideal sceanrio. 

I'd imagine that the club are simply taking the best offer they can get.

[Malandro]

I wonder if we are going to see Newcastle coming in for him, Fulham have refused to comment on the medical.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/

[PaulWinch again]

A loan is fine provided it also involves a loan fee.

[eamonn]

Come on Barcodes and Palace. Get into a bidding war with Fulham and give us what the Dazzler is worth.

[supertom]

A loan fee is good.
I think this could suit us in some ways. If he goes and scores 20 goals. Come next summer we'll be in a position to ask for more money than we can now, regardless of him being in his last 12 months. If we get a decent loan fee, get his wages off the books for a season, then can demand 7-8 mill next summer, that'll work out well.