Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours

[andyh]

Richard Dunne signs for QPR !!!

I'm amazed he passed a medical.

[VILLA MOLE]

Richard Dunne signs for QPR !!!

I'm amazed he passed a medical.

as much pie and mash you can eat in a minute

[ADVILLAFAN]

Probably on 100K a week knowing QPR...

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Benteke came in to start, Helenius will be bedded in over a longer period.

If Benteke goes, then I expect Lambert will spend 6-10 million replacing him and I also still think that we will sign a more established attacking midfielder.

People are blinded by transfer fees. Michu was Laudrop’s best signing and he cost £2 million. Norwich and Southampton may well have signed some very good players or alternatively, they might not have done. I don’t know, as I have never seen them play in the Premier League. What they cost doesn’t come into it.

[paul_e]

I'm still not sure on the Laudrup thing, they may all do really well but there are so many factors that's just too hard to call.

The cost thing I still don't agree with for the exact example you gave.  I see little in their records to separate Helenius and Cornelius but the cost difference is huge.  Cost is largely based on who's selling and how hyped the player is.  If the club selling is small enough that a fee of £1m is enough to keep them afloat for a season they're much less likely to demand huge money.  Then you add on the hype.  If the same club/country has a 'hot prospect' in the same position who is their big hope you find the players just behind them tend to be cheaper than they possibly should be.  Benteke, for example, had no hype because Lukaku was Belgiums young striker in waiting, with everyone else making up the numbers.

We've picked up a lot of players who were under the radar, not all of them will come off but if 3 of the 6 from this summer make it with us then we'll have made a big profit and had a decent season (Bacuna is the 1 I think will turn out a bit special, I have no idea why but I have a good feeling about him).

[eamonn]

If cost doesn't come into it why will Helenius not be expected to start but Benteke was? If we had spent £7m-£10m on Helenius there would be far higher expectations from him.

And Michu was so cheap because of the state of finances at every Spanish club bar the top two which Laudrup took full advantage of.

I'm not saying that transfer fees completely dictate the potential success or failure of a signing but it's the one clear measurement used when a player is bought.

[Holte L2]

Granted that Michy Batshuayi   does look useful!!

Other belgians to add in the mix defenders  Toby Alderweireld at Ajax and  Nicolas Lombaerts  Zenit Saint Petersburg and forward Jelle Vossen     at Racing Genk and Maxime Lestienne for club brugge

Be totally honest now, how many of those players have you actually seen play a full game?

Not a youtube clip, an actual game?

I saw Toby Alderweireld  of Ajax.  Went to watch Ajax v Willem II the day we played Norwich (mates stag do and I wanted to sneak off to get a game in).  Didnt think much of him to be hoenst. Certainly wasnt stand-out.

[TheSandman]

If cost doesn't come into it why will Helenius not be expected to start but Benteke was? If we had spent £7m-£10m on Helenius there would be far higher expectations from him.

I never really thought he was. My impression at the time was that he was to be backup to Bent but came in and impressed. That said, I too am a wee bit concerned. Our players are somewhat more unheralded compared to the guys other teams are bringing in and we obviously can't expect every gamble to pay off. If they do Lambert deserves a lot of praise for finding players like them at such fees.

[paul_e]

If cost doesn't come into it why will Helenius not be expected to start but Benteke was? If we had spent £7m-£10m on Helenius there would be far higher expectations from him.

And Michu was so cheap because of the state of finances at every Spanish club bar the top two which Laudrup took full advantage of.

I'm not saying that transfer fees completely dictate the potential success or failure of a signing but it's the one clear measurement used when a player is bought.

Benteke wasn't expected to start.  He was expected t compete with Weimann and Gabby to partner Bent.

Helenius isn't expected to start, he's expected to compete for a spot with the 3 from last season.

[supertom]

Yeah when Benteke came in, Darren Bent was our captain. It then became apparent to Lambert that Bent wasn't right for his side and Benteke would offer far more. In fairness to Lambert he saw this before anyone else and stuck by his decision even when many on here and virtually everyone outside of Villa were questionning his sanity.

I expect Helenius to have a good impact, but we do still need another striker to come in and push him, Gabby and Wiemann.

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If cost doesn't come into it why will Helenius not be expected to start but Benteke was? If we had spent £7m-£10m on Helenius there would be far higher expectations from him.

I think its based on the squad we have.

None of our forwards could do what Benteke could offer and so he was brought into be a first team player. Helenius was brought into deputise at a time where we expected Benteke to stay. That has changed, so its likely somebody more established will be brought.

[ozzjim]

There will be a striker and a number 10 style forward to come in if Benteke goes I am sure. Maybe even 2 strikers. No way will it be left as is without Benteke.

[Tuscans]

It's not twitter but I still think it's a pile of nutsacks.

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1214636-aston-villa-target-wigan-athletic-ace-maloney.html

[sonlyme]

The 'how much' thing is more to do with when you buy.

Can anyone tell me how much Villa paid for that scrawny teenage reserve striker from Dundee?  The same one who won player of the year and young player of the year before being sold for a British Transfer Record fee.

Give Lambert the money from Benteke sale and we could be even happier come this time next May.

Tuscan - it may be nutsacks - but Maloney is still a super footballer.

[eamonn]

Maloney has been immense for the past 18 months but it would be strange having him back.
I wouldn't worry about his age but I wonder how much Wigan would want. I reckon they still owe us £7m from the N'Zogbia deal so how about no money exchanges for Maloney and we call it even?