Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours

[villa kicks]

I like goal. com  what about tribal football has to up there also with mentions to sb nation and bleacher report

[IFWaters]

Tom Ince anyone ?

[paul_e]

Haven't seen enough of Tom Ince to make a meaningful judgement, I will say though that his record is very good at blackpool.

[villa kicks]

Ince a cracking play certainly too good for championship. I think he's holding out for an established premiership club. Villa would be just that. £5mil plus delfoneso would be rite!

[paul_e]

but is he better than Tonev who we've just got for a fraction of the cost?

I have no idea what the answer is but if you're going to pay the mony being asked for him you want someone who will come in and have a big impact, is he ready for that, it seems to be a question that is proving a bit to expensive for most clubs to ask.

[nodge]

Juventus that night were brilliant, and if I remember rightly did we score first in the away leg

Best player I have had the pleasure of seeing - Cruyff, he was phenominal against us

Absolutely.  I remember Cruyff selling one dummy that sent the crowd the wrong way, I think it was at that match althgough I did once see him play at Stamford Bridge.  I have a vague memory that on one occasion he even took a goal kick, he probably played it forward and ran up field to pick it up from a knock down.

The term genius is used far too frequently but Cruyff was just that.

I was only a kid but I have a few snippets of memories from that game (UEFA Cup Quarter Final 1978).

One was queueing with my dad for what seemed like forever, all the way round three sides of the ground.

Another was how dirty some of their players were, especialy their chief 'hatchet man', who was called Jesus something.

And sadly my abiding memory of Cruyff was that his mugshot was on the front of the match programme, and some lad on the bus on the way home was cheerily burning out the eyes with a cigarette.

Also, I think we left early, as we usually did, and missed two late Villa goals, including the equaliser for 2-2, wasn't it?

Did Dad ever stay to the end of anything?

Well you two are here so that's at least twice!

[Matt C]

Ince has looked decent on the rare occasions I've seen him but not outstanding. His price seems vastly inflated partly because he's English and partly because of Liverpool's 50% sell-on clause I would guess.

[Malandro]

Ince has looked decent on the rare occasions I've seen him but not outstanding. His price seems vastly inflated partly because he's English and partly because of Liverpool's 50% sell-on clause I would guess.

and stupidly that he is Paul Ince's son

[villa kicks]

Ince has looked decent on the rare occasions I've seen him but not outstanding. His price seems vastly inflated partly because he's English and partly because of Liverpool's 50% sell-on clause I would guess.

i certainly think this is case though  its maybe now not a case of prices being inflated they just are as they are. 8mil is the figure then 8mil it is.. same with benteke @25mil. There are arguments for and against such fees but fact remains clubs want to get value both selling and buying. Its same with players wages they aren't over paid they just are - that's footballing life. Everyone up to get best deal for themselves   

[garyshawsknee]

Ince has looked decent on the rare occasions I've seen him but not outstanding. His price seems vastly inflated partly because he's English and partly because of Liverpool's 50% sell-on clause I would guess.

i certainly think this is case though  its maybe now not a case of prices being inflated they just are as they are. 8mil is the figure then 8mil it is.. same with benteke @25mil. There are arguments for and against such fees but fact remains clubs want to get value both selling and buying. Its same with players wages they aren't over paid they just are - that's footballing life. Everyone up to get best deal for themselves   

Unfortunately youve hit the nail on the head VK.

[Dave]

I'd say that Ince at £8m looks much better value than Zaha at £15m and most of the talk in January was of what a great prospect ManYoo had signed.

Not that I'd want either of them at those prices.

[PeterWithe]

The 83 Juventus match was the first I ever saw and what a brilliant team. When the subject of good visiting teams comes up I always think of the surprise ones, the Man City team of Given, Dunne, Distin, ireland, barton and anelaka and the spanish team with mostovoi, was is Celta Vigo or Deportivo?

We didn't really expect to see quite so little of the ball with either.

[Dave]

The 83 Juventus match was the first I ever saw and what a brilliant team. When the subject of good visiting teams comes up I always think of the surprise ones, the Man City team of Given, Dunne, Distin, ireland, barton and anelaka and the spanish team with mostovoi, was is Celta Vigo or Deportivo?

We didn't really expect to see quite so little of the ball with either.

Vigo. I could never work out why Gregory spent the next two years chasing Haim Revivo rather than Mostovoi after those games.

I'd forgotten that Claude Makelele was the bloke doing the defending which meant that Mostovoi could spend his evening ripping us to pieces.

[eamonn]

Karpin was excellent for them too. But yeah, I desperately wanted Revivo to join us. And Benny McCarthy later.
 

[PeterWithesShin]

Juventus, Spartak (1983?) and Celta were the best away sides I can remember us playing in Europe. I was at the Barcelona game in '78 but can't remember anything about it. I was only 8 so had no idea what a big match it was.