Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours

[Dave]

Delfouneso on 20k a week seems very much an O Neill leftover to be honest. Perhaps if MON had a little more faith in Fonz, instead of persisting with Heskey, he might have developed better as a player. But putting him on 20k a week (okay meagre by the squad standards of 3-4 years ago) after a handful of games was silly.

Offered and signed when Houllier was manager. As per my earlier example, Gardner's deal expires in 12 months time - how much do you think he should be offered after a similar handful of games?

Bearing in mind the earlier post that the likes of Josh McEachran are on around £30k per week.

[eastie]

This forum is to quiet. Is everybody doing the dreaded shopping on Saturday because there is no footy ?

Laura robson is where its at danny
Regarding daves post , its a tricky one with Gardner , he has great potential but has had a couple of awful injuries - i would hope we can keep him on a new deal but he will want a decent wage comparable to the likes of Fonz and bannans I'd imagine.

[Dave]

Regarding daves post , its a tricky one with Gardner , he has great potential but has had a couple of awful injuries - i would hope we can keep him on a new deal but he will want a decent wage comparable to the likes of Fonz and bannans I'd imagine.

And that's the issue - promising players (and their advisors) know that they are promising and will want to be paid accordingly. If we don't put Gardner on a similar level the likes of Delfouneso and Bannan then I'm sure there will be plenty of clubs who will, which is probably just the situation it would have been with Nathan in 2011. With hindsight, that wouldn't really have been a big issue, just like it might not be with Gardner if he ends up leaving for a higher salary than we offer in twelve months time.

It could be very easy for us to be talking in two years time about the idiot that stupidly gave Gardner a £20k per week contract which means we're lumbered with him, just like we're doing now with Delfouneso.

[supertom]

Delfouneso on 20k a week seems very much an O Neill leftover to be honest. Perhaps if MON had a little more faith in Fonz, instead of persisting with Heskey, he might have developed better as a player. But putting him on 20k a week (okay meagre by the squad standards of 3-4 years ago) after a handful of games was silly.

Offered and signed when Houllier was manager. As per my earlier example, Gardner's deal expires in 12 months time - how much do you think he should be offered after a similar handful of games?

Bearing in mind the earlier post that the likes of Josh McEachran are on around £30k per week.

I'm surprised at that point Randy would have allowed that. Though I think Houllier seemed to rate Fonz a bit too, he gave him a few games I recall. He only got loaned out after Ged was off sick.

I guess what happens this season will dictate what Gardner is offered. I would think he'd be offered an extension perhaps at least. If he comes in and finally manages to show his promise then Lambo might give him a decent length contract on decent money. I don't see him getting close to McEchren.
I'd have no qualms giving one of our younger lads around 20k IF they were an important part of our plans and contributing.

For Fonz and Bannan, it's too much and they don't appear to be part of the long term plan. You'd also have to say, compared with some of our youngsters in recent times, these two have had some question marks over attitude at times. Again, maybe getting too much, too young for very little contributed to it. Certainly on the surface, Fonzy doesn't appear to have the work rate and determination of Wiemann, or that Gabby had back in the day. Wee Barry's occasional problems have been well covered on here too.

Lambert will always have replacements in line for whenever we lose a once promising youngster I guess. We have a lot of promising front men coming through, so Fonz won't be missed. I'm sure he'll do fine at a new club. He's at the age he needs to be playing regularly.

[danlanza]

This forum is to quiet. Is everybody doing the dreaded shopping on Saturday because there is no footy ?

Laura robson is where its at danny
Regarding daves post , its a tricky one with Gardner , he has great potential but has had a couple of awful injuries - i would hope we can keep him on a new deal but he will want a decent wage comparable to the likes of Fonz and bannans I'd imagine.

I see what you mean.

[Olneythelonely]

Ends Stevens has been banging one of my sister's mates. Bit of a twat apparently.

[TheSandman]

Is the lass a looker?

What a player earns is distorted by what other players at the same club are earning. Chelsea pay big wages so it's no surprise that McEachran gets that much. I'm equally unsurprised by what Bannan and Delfouneso are on as at the times those deals were signed they were squad players making the odd start and when you have the likes of Ireland and Heskey on £60,000 per week it's fair enough that that kind of guy will make that much. We only think it sounds a lot because most of our regulars will be on not much more than that but go around the PL and I'd be unsurprised if there are a lot of young players taking home £20,000p/w+.

In Gardner's case if he signs a new deal next season he won't be much younger than some of the players we have brought in as starters and if he has a good season he'll be after the same kind of money.

[villadelph]

So, Jonathon Hogg is coming back..?

[berneboy]

So, Jonathon Hogg is coming back..?

Where's this come from?

[PaulWinch again]

I hope not.

[Mister E]

In Gardner's case if he signs a new deal next season he won't be much younger than some of the players we have brought in as starters and if he has a good season he'll be after the same kind of money.

GG has to have a good pre-season and force his way into the side. If he can do this, then I'm sure the club will make a good offer to him for a new contract. If he does not force his way into the reckoning he will - I'm sure - be offered an extension but on terms that do not equate to those of the likes of Weimann.
The ball is in his court.

[supertom]

Hoggy's done well at Watford but in all honesty, I can't see that happening. He'd probably just about cut it in top flight football at a club like Stoke, or one of the Promoted sides.
For us though? If Herd can't get a sniff, and he's a better player IMO, then no. If McLeish was still in charge you'd see why the link has appeared, but he's not.

[SoccerHQ]

I have seen him once and a couple of highlights, but other than that just youtube. Shame that it is not going to happen, as he looks like he could have been exactly the type of player to help us really kick on building a side that really worries others.

We certainly need a creative midfielder before this window is out. Or even just a central midfielder who can actually score a goal as Delph-Westwood-Sylla doesn't.

Don't know a huge amount about Belhanda but the exciting thing would be that when Montpellier won the league in 11/12 he was ever bit as influential as Hazard was for Lille so getting him for 10m sounds like good business as he could be that x factor type midfielder we struggle to attract (and the ones we do turn out bonkers).

[Surrey Villain]

Ends Stevens has been banging one of my sister's mates. Bit of a twat apparently.

Who? Stevens or your sister's mate?

[tomd2103]

Stevens to me just looks incredibly average. He works hard, and overall he didn't do too badly slotting in when called upon. But we saw enough to see he's not Premiership standard. To be honest I think he'd struggle to standout in the Championship. I think we'll move him on now. Surely with two left backs in, and probably one or two 18-20 year olds coming up from the yoofs he'll find his chances limited to say the least.

Cannot fault the lads attitude though, so good luck to him. A club like Wolves would be good. In as much as they're a big club in League 1. Good chance of coming back up. He could have a good wedge of games there, make a name for himself and start working his way up the leagues a bit...Or to be less harsh on the lad, Sheff Utd perhaps. Lol.

I don't see the point in him staying here, just filling a spot in the reserves (if he's lucky). He'll lose a year of playing time at a crucial stage in his development. Unless he bides his time and starts breaking the legs on Bennett and Luna voodoo dolls.

He needs to spend the next season on loan really.  At the moment I'd say Bennett, Luna and Baker would all be preferred to him at LB and he really needs to be playing at this point in his career.  Send him away for a season to see how he does and make a decision next summer.