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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1667534 times)

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3315 on: June 13, 2013, 12:17:11 AM »
Have watched a bit of Bacuna on youtube and I'm noticing a pattern.  All the players we've been linked with this summer look very comfortable with their technique, all happy taking a pass when marked and moving it on, all confident enough to back themselves.  If you look at Lowton, Benteke and Westwood they all have that same self-belief in their ability to control the ball.  Most players that you see like this are the ones who you also hear lots of stories about them staying late for extra training and always giving 100%.

This has been the lynchpin of German football for a very long time and is a clear indication of the Dortmund influence on Lambert.

I think we can add technical to the description of our targets (along with young and hungry).

This is a route I've thought Villa should follow for a long time as we seem to produce youngsters like this quite well but we've not really made the most of them in the past.

Arsenal have built their past 17 years of success on the inspired decision to appoint a manager who was versed in the ways of the nation that was about to become dominant in world football. Maybe history is repeating itself.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3316 on: June 13, 2013, 12:20:33 AM »
A word of caution, though that these players are still untried and untested. Good prospects definitely and itsgreat work of the club to be looking at transfers straight away. We're not resting on laurels and going on our holibobs. But, if we want to avoid a repeat of the last few seasons then we need more steel, more strength, and more experience in the team. We finished the season brilliantlybut there's no guarantee we'll click at the start of the new season. adisappointing run could hit confidence. The team needs experience in the rightareas. especially the back and probably midfield. That is thetrick for this summer.

I agree with that entirely.
I don't. "Experience in the right areas" this time last season would have been Fletcher instead of Benteke. Given instead of Guzan. N'Zogbia instead of Weimann.

I'm quite happy for Lambert to bring in a 20 year old instead of a 30 year old, as the signings that he's brought in so far seem to suggest that experience isn't really a substitute for competence. If we can get someone who is "experienced" AND is happy to accept sensible wages AND has a sensible transfer fee AND is happy to play for a team that finished in the bottom half AND is actually going to be a really good player then I'm quite happy. But until this mythical beast appears, I'm not going to complain too about the interesting players that we are bringing in.

Peter says that there's "no guarantee that we'll click". Of course there isn't. Nor would there be if we spent stupid amounts of money on players who just so happened to have played a couple of extra seasons in the Premier League. When they first came in, Sidwell was experienced and Young wasn't. Harewood was and Gabby wasn't. Knight was and Mellberg wasn't.

So while neither of them is a guarantee I'm happy to take Okore over Lescott and Helenius over whichever "experienced" player we would have bought from the Premier League before the current regime was in place.

I agree with this entirely. Put much better than i could too.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3317 on: June 13, 2013, 12:23:03 AM »
Have watched a bit of Bacuna on youtube and I'm noticing a pattern.  All the players we've been linked with this summer look very comfortable with their technique, all happy taking a pass when marked and moving it on, all confident enough to back themselves.  If you look at Lowton, Benteke and Westwood they all have that same self-belief in their ability to control the ball.  Most players that you see like this are the ones who you also hear lots of stories about them staying late for extra training and always giving 100%.

This has been the lynchpin of German football for a very long time and is a clear indication of the Dortmund influence on Lambert.

I think we can add technical to the description of our targets (along with young and hungry).

This is a route I've thought Villa should follow for a long time as we seem to produce youngsters like this quite well but we've not really made the most of them in the past.

Arsenal have built their past 17 years of success on the inspired decision to appoint a manager who was versed in the ways of the nation that was about to become dominant in world football. Maybe history is repeating itself.
Two of the best posts I have read in a long time.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3318 on: June 13, 2013, 12:30:17 AM »
Not the best translation in the world, but from www.tv2.dk:

In the winter he said no to big club Chelsea, but now it seems that FC Nordsjælland player Jores Okore yet come to the Premier League.

According politiken.dk, the Danish footballer to Birmingham to undergo a medical examination before he puts his signature on a contract.
Read also: Okore criticizes Olsen's tactics: Paranoid and naive
FC Zealand and Aston Villa, according to the newspaper agreed sale price of Jores Okore, which has a contract with the Danish vice champions until the end of 2016.
The deal, according politiken.dk the largest in FC North Zealand's history, and it should bring the club more than 20 million.
Read also: Toft whip: Dumpty marks for tire Danes
If the change goes through, will Jores Okore may club mate with AaB striker Nicklas Helenius.
The North Jutland club announced Tuesday that it is negotiating with Aston Villa on the 22-year-old striker, who Premier League club wish to associate.
Aston Villa finished this past season ranked number 15 in the Best British series.


The connected story from www.politiken.dk:

Jores Okore said in winter no thanks to an offer from Chelsea because he could foresee that in the first year were unlikely to get much playing time on the London team. He will however have to Aston Villa.

The 20-year-old FC Zealand defender should, learn politiken.dk, be ready this week to sign with the Birmingham club, which reached number 15 in the Premier League after fighting a long time to avoid relegation.

It overlooks the largest trade in FC North Zealand history. As Andreas Bjelland - as Jores Okore replaced on the World Cup team after the break in the match against Armenia - was sold to Twente got Farum club just over 20 million dollars for him.

READ ALSO Transfer Rumors: Agger and Okore is on the block in France and England

FCN and Aston Villa have to agree on the selling price, and now travels Jores Okore to a medical examination in Birmingham before he puts his name on a nice contract. It is believed that Aston Villa should give something more for the talented defender, who in the park last night played his A soccer match number six, than the Dutch club did Bjelland.

Jores Okore has a contract with FC Zealand for three years. But it has long been clear that it was only a matter of time before he would leave the Premier League and Farum. Many big foreign clubs have followed him this season, where he in autumn showed its format, impressive physical strength and brilliant setting, since FC Zealand debut on the biggest stage of the Champions League group stage.

READ ALSO Jores Okore has no price cap in FC Zealand

His spring season may not have been as flashy, but he is a defensive talent out of the ordinary. He has a couple of seasons has been dominant in the domestic tournament, and he could probably be a hit for Aston Villa in England. He fits perfectly on top football over there, most people agree on.

In Birmingham is Jores Okore, by all accounts, teammate AaB-top scorer Nicklas Helenius is also expected to sign a contract with Aston Villa within the next few days.


I am so bloody excited by all this.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3319 on: June 13, 2013, 12:53:17 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3320 on: June 13, 2013, 01:16:50 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

Needs to work on his positional discipline then?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3321 on: June 13, 2013, 01:19:23 AM »
He looked a winger on the youtube clips I saw.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3322 on: June 13, 2013, 01:27:49 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

Any more deets? Age, club, nationality, fee etc?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3323 on: June 13, 2013, 01:29:25 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

Any more deets? Age, club, nationality, fee etc?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandro_Bacuna

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3324 on: June 13, 2013, 01:29:40 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

Any more deets? Age, club, nationality, fee etc?

Deets?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3325 on: June 13, 2013, 01:37:11 AM »
how many wingers do we need ?

 Leandro Bacuna has been described as a winger, right back or midfielder, depending where you look.

Any more deets? Age, club, nationality, fee etc?

Deets?

Sorry, details.

I'm with it.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3326 on: June 13, 2013, 01:38:32 AM »
Dear Lord. I'm glad I'm a square.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3327 on: June 13, 2013, 01:40:22 AM »
Yes, all us hip cats say 'deets' get down with the programme daddios

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3328 on: June 13, 2013, 01:53:06 AM »
I must fairly openly admit that I've never heard of the three players we're supposedly close to deals on and indeed vast majority of players Lambert has signed. I like that.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #3329 on: June 13, 2013, 01:55:59 AM »
I'm that out of the loop if I was in charge of villas finances I'd sign players from Melchester Rovers for 20m, I've not heard of any of the buggers on his thread.

 


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