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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1668084 times)

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1725 on: May 30, 2013, 07:28:54 PM »
I think he is a super player, but not one we would ever see in a Villa shirt!

he'll be headed to France or Germany. He's always good when he playes for Man U just doesn't play enough. He needs to have a good run of games. Look at someone like Kevin Price Boateng and how has developed at Milan. I think Anderson is quite similar.

I think he's garbage personally. Never looks fit either and struggles to last 90 minutes in games.

That'd be my concern, too. He looks overweight whenever I see him.

I also wonder what the commitment would be of a player coming from there to here.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1726 on: May 30, 2013, 07:31:11 PM »
Unless you're Ronaldo, don't ever buy a player from Man Ure, they leave 'cos they are sh*t. Who has bought a player from them to become a real find??

Paul Pogba, Shawcross, Simpson (Newcastle right back)

and of course.....R.Savage!

Probably more players who are in their mid to late 20s rather than some of the youth they let go.

When Nicky Butt left he was relegated with two different clubs and Park went down with QPR. O'shea also went close to a relegation.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1727 on: May 30, 2013, 07:31:44 PM »
I think he is a super player, but not one we would ever see in a Villa shirt!

he'll be headed to France or Germany. He's always good when he playes for Man U just doesn't play enough. He needs to have a good run of games. Look at someone like Kevin Price Boateng and how has developed at Milan. I think Anderson is quite similar.

I think he's garbage personally. Never looks fit either and struggles to last 90 minutes in games.

That'd be my concern, too. He looks overweight whenever I see him.

I also wonder what the commitment would be of a player coming from there to here.

I actually think he's a little too muscular and it has slowed him down. Look at him from his Portugal days and now. He certainly needs to play a lot more, but I also think we need a driving midfield player like him.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1728 on: May 30, 2013, 07:35:51 PM »
I think he is a super player, but not one we would ever see in a Villa shirt!

he'll be headed to France or Germany. He's always good when he playes for Man U just doesn't play enough. He needs to have a good run of games. Look at someone like Kevin Price Boateng and how has developed at Milan. I think Anderson is quite similar.

I think he's garbage personally. Never looks fit either and struggles to last 90 minutes in games.

That'd be my concern, too. He looks overweight whenever I see him.

I also wonder what the commitment would be of a player coming from there to here.

I actually think he's a little too muscular and it has slowed him down. Look at him from his Portugal days and now. He certainly needs to play a lot more, but I also think we need a driving midfield player like him.

I think we've got one. The Fabian Delph we started to see towards the back end of the season will be that man.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1729 on: May 30, 2013, 07:36:29 PM »
I think he is a super player, but not one we would ever see in a Villa shirt!

he'll be headed to France or Germany. He's always good when he playes for Man U just doesn't play enough. He needs to have a good run of games. Look at someone like Kevin Price Boateng and how has developed at Milan. I think Anderson is quite similar.

I think he's garbage personally. Never looks fit either and struggles to last 90 minutes in games.

That'd be my concern, too. He looks overweight whenever I see him.

I also wonder what the commitment would be of a player coming from there to here.

I think between the four of you, you've summed up Anderson very well.

He is without doubt "a super player", he "just doesn't play enough", he "never looks fit either and struggles to last 90 minutes in games" and "he looks overweight".

Saying that, he really needs a new club with the right manager to let him express himself, enjoy his football again. The rest will take care of it'self. I can't see Moyes giving him the space to play with the freedom he so desires. Lambert might but but I can't see it happening. Italy is my guess.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1730 on: May 30, 2013, 07:36:52 PM »
At this juncture I'd rather stick with our current midfield 3 than take one of them out for Anderson. I can't comment on his time at Porto 6+ years ago because I never saw that (and he only played 20 odd games for them), but from his time at Utd, I've never seen him stand out. For what he's offered the first 11, 9 mill is also too much.

If we're gonna sign a central midfielder for that sort of money, it needs to be someone who can improve our midfield significantly. I don't think that's Anderson by a long shot. Going back to an inferior league, he may well be able to stand out a little more again.

If we're gonna sign a Brazilian I'd rather get someone with a bit of flair and brilliance in them.

Not sure where Moyes stands on him either, but you'd think with Scholes retiring, Giggs with one year left, and even Carrick getting on a bit now, then Anderson may find he has more opportunities at Utd.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1731 on: May 30, 2013, 07:59:15 PM »
Just watched Tonev playing for Lech Poznan. Difficult to judge in one game but definitely lacks composure in front of goal had two good chances to win the game which flew high over the bar. But i am sure PL has had his eye on him over several games and i trust his judgement and experience ........
If his main problem is just composure, then that isn't that big a problem as that can be easily improved. Look at Benteke, looked pretty wasteful early on but gradually became more clinical as the season went on. What was Tonev's reaction at the end by the way? Did it look like he was saying his goodbyes?

Ye to be fair when i first watched Benteke he looked poor in front of goal and we know how that turned out !! Lech Posnan were playing away so there was not many of there fans there. His work rate looked good and he shoots from anywhere. A few clubs are sniffing so lets see what happens ......

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1732 on: May 30, 2013, 08:16:24 PM »
Benteke still scored on his debut - couldn't have been that bad in front of goal at the start.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1733 on: May 30, 2013, 08:18:20 PM »
Just watched Tonev playing for Lech Poznan. Difficult to judge in one game but definitely lacks composure in front of goal had two good chances to win the game which flew high over the bar. But i am sure PL has had his eye on him over several games and i trust his judgement and experience ........
If his main problem is just composure, then that isn't that big a problem as that can be easily improved. Look at Benteke, looked pretty wasteful early on but gradually became more clinical as the season went on. What was Tonev's reaction at the end by the way? Did it look like he was saying his goodbyes?

Ye to be fair when i first watched Benteke he looked poor in front of goal and we know how that turned out !! Lech Posnan were playing away so there was not many of there fans there. His work rate looked good and he shoots from anywhere. A few clubs are sniffing so lets see what happens ......

he I was the same. Tekkers was poor that Belgium game when we were sniffing after him. I thought we had signed a bit of a mule. I was wrong :)

Exciting this though innit? Reminds me of watching that Molde game when we were looking at OGS.

Fun summer times.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1734 on: May 30, 2013, 08:29:40 PM »
Unless you're Ronaldo, don't ever buy a player from Man Ure, they leave 'cos they are sh*t. Who has bought a player from them to become a real find??

Paul Pogba, Shawcross, Simpson (Newcastle right back)

Phil Bardsley

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1735 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:38 PM »
Not convinced by Anderson. There's a good player in there, but he seems to drift in and out of games. Anyway, lately Delph is looking like a similar player, only better. Plus, I think we could do with a midfielder who chips in with a few goals, and Anderson's scoring record is abysmal.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1736 on: May 30, 2013, 08:36:54 PM »
I think it would be nice to have a midfielder that scores goals, but I would argue that it's more important that they create when we essentially play with three forwards and that they can all defend. When you have an attacking midfielder then he's going to want to get forward. Either you then need to drop one of the front three to accomodate him, or perish the thought become even worse defensively because we'll have 2 in midfield at every counter attack.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1737 on: May 30, 2013, 09:12:39 PM »
I have no idea where the Anderson love-in comes from. He's never done anything that makes me think he wasn't overpriced.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1738 on: May 30, 2013, 09:17:38 PM »
Its not the attacking midfielder we should be looking at asa start but a defensive midfielder. Somebody who can offer the back 4 some proper protection and will be there to take the ball from them. Especially helpful for a Baker or Clarke.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1739 on: May 30, 2013, 09:39:33 PM »
Just had a message back from a former student who is very much into his football and is a bit of a walking encyclopedia on the Polish leagues. His view on Tonev is that he is certainly the best winger at Lech and one of the best in the league. He says if you take into account the difference in standards between English and Polish football, for Villa Tonev would probably be a useful substitute at present but no more than that. To be fair, probably much what Lambert would have in mind for him at the start.

 


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