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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1667306 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1320 on: May 24, 2013, 07:06:15 AM »
If benteke did go, I wonder who we'd be looking at? Presumably someone of a similar ilk. Lukaku on loan is an obvious shout if not entirely satisfactory

Wilfred bony? He doesn't quite seem the target man type. Gomis? Kenwyne jones? Jordan Rhodes?

Probably best not to start getting into all this, I just hope the club are identifying targets

IF, and that's still a big if, he goes, it'll have to be a big signing to compensate for the massive hole he will leave. 

I hope scouts will have already found a couple. Big or not so.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1321 on: May 24, 2013, 08:23:27 AM »
I like herd to stay. I dont nzogbia - but suspect Monaco would want bigger players than him and he doesn't fit criteria of what Monaco are striving to achieve. The mail would be more realistic if they said Nzogbia and Herd were wanted by m'boro. Nursey in mirror could have some accuracy with the mention of Lambert targeting 2 new full backs, an experienced centre half and a creative midfielder. I myselfclearly stated want i feel is necessary 8 players and would like at least 6. Am taking into account players who will be shipped out. So 1 gk. Full back- left. Centre back. Creative midfielder, Goalscoring midfielder, 2 wingers, and a striker. 

And if Lowtongetsinjured?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1322 on: May 24, 2013, 08:38:53 AM »
As others have said, whatever the abilities of Lescott, he's not coming. It would cost a fortune in wages to bring him here and Citeh will have to pay him something to leave, so you'd have an ageing defender on big wages who doesn't particulary want to be here - isn't that how Dunne arrived?

Ping.

I've never felt for one minute that Dunne wanted to be here.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1323 on: May 24, 2013, 08:59:45 AM »
well i like Chris herd and so does Paul Lambert. He is a player who can play a variety of positions including right back. Lowton has had a great record of playing majority of matches last season and perhaps a cover player is not needed to buy in  when we have herdy. Ryan shotton and Danny Simpson both on frees but of no interest to Villa. I touted Boycey but seems Lambert not interested in going down that route. All in all Herd is more than capable of right back though his best position for me is in middle of park. The right back place is nt the priority for how i see. 1 Gk, Left back, Central defender, 2 midfielders, 2 wide players and 1 striker maybe 2 (pending sit) . Could be 9 players now needed. Certainly depends on outgoings . So it can be 6 or 7 signings for these places mentioned. Something along those lines i believe   

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1324 on: May 24, 2013, 10:32:06 AM »
N'Zonzi is a useless thug, no thanks.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1325 on: May 24, 2013, 10:46:41 AM »
I genuinely believe that Herd can be a very useful right back. It's just that he hasn't had much opportunity there yet.
As back up to Lowton I have no problem with him at all.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1326 on: May 24, 2013, 10:49:32 AM »
If benteke did go, I wonder who we'd be looking at? Presumably someone of a similar ilk. Lukaku on loan is an obvious shout if not entirely satisfactory

Wilfred bony? He doesn't quite seem the target man type. Gomis? Kenwyne jones? Jordan Rhodes?

Probably best not to start getting into all this, I just hope the club are identifying targets

Jones is absolute shite anyway. No way.
With Benteke wanting out, I think Lambert and Lerners plan for unearthing young lower paid players has been found out to be flawed. If we want to improve we need to sign better players. Top players want to earn top money and play at the best sides.
Now that doesn't mean doing a MON and bringing in the Heskey, Harewood and Beye's when there are far superior players even in the non leagues. But to keep our top players like Benteke we need to compensate them appropriately. The young and hungry mantra is deeply flawed. Plenty of experienced players are still top quality players with buckets of desire to succeed and would add hugely to our team and squad. Lescott and Barry are cause celebres at this stage but they would hugely improve our first team if the price was right. I can't see how the price wouldn't be for both of those. It's all about getting the balance in the squad right, IMO Lambert got it desperately wrong for most of the campaign as the goals conceded column makes evidently clear.
Just hope Lambert isn't incredibly naive to the consistent asset stripping that Lerner has employed since MON left. Sure things had to change but if Benteke is replaced by a Troy Deeney this summer I'm afraid the notion of Villa as a club on the up will be just that.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1327 on: May 24, 2013, 11:10:41 AM »
If benteke did go, I wonder who we'd be looking at? Presumably someone of a similar ilk. Lukaku on loan is an obvious shout if not entirely satisfactory

Wilfred bony? He doesn't quite seem the target man type. Gomis? Kenwyne jones? Jordan Rhodes?

Probably best not to start getting into all this, I just hope the club are identifying targets

Jones is absolute shite anyway. No way.
With Benteke wanting out, I think Lambert and Lerners plan for unearthing young lower paid players has been found out to be flawed. If we want to improve we need to sign better players. Top players want to earn top money and play at the best sides.
Now that doesn't mean doing a MON and bringing in the Heskey, Harewood and Beye's when there are far superior players even in the non leagues. But to keep our top players like Benteke we need to compensate them appropriately. The young and hungry mantra is deeply flawed. Plenty of experienced players are still top quality players with buckets of desire to succeed and would add hugely to our team and squad. Lescott and Barry are cause celebres at this stage but they would hugely improve our first team if the price was right. I can't see how the price wouldn't be for both of those. It's all about getting the balance in the squad right, IMO Lambert got it desperately wrong for most of the campaign as the goals conceded column makes evidently clear.
Just hope Lambert isn't incredibly naive to the consistent asset stripping that Lerner has employed since MON left. Sure things had to change but if Benteke is replaced by a Troy Deeney this summer I'm afraid the notion of Villa as a club on the up will be just that.

With Benteke wanting out?  You've decided he's leaving, he hasn't decided yet.
Compensate them appropriately - by, as is widely reported, doubling their wages?
Asset Stripping since Mon Left? - We have a net spend of £8m since Mon left - reduced spending and reduction in the wage bill I accept but who spends money during a process of asset stripping?
Replaced by Troy Deeney - Who we've not been linked to, are unlikely to have any interest in - nice choice to prove your point of how shit everything is though.

The alternative is:
Benteke is a Villa player and will be coming back from the internationals to discuss an improved deal - let's see what happens rather than making stuff up to justify panicking.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1328 on: May 24, 2013, 11:30:22 AM »
James Nursey has said Bent, Ireland and Bannan can go if the right bids land.

Albrighton has got another chance.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1329 on: May 24, 2013, 11:43:31 AM »
Villa would be barmy to let Bent go if there is any danger whatsoever that Benteke might go.  If Bent IS going, then I am presuming its because the club KNOW that Benteke is staying.

Also, just to clarify something.  I DO remember reading that Troy Deeney was actually linked with Villa a while back.  Can't remember where or who by though.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1330 on: May 24, 2013, 11:44:37 AM »
Albrighton probably gets chance has hes been injured but he was looking pretty poor before , maybe PL can sort him out.

Good luck to Bent . I like him as a player and did not let us down . Great scoring record. West ham maybe or Fulham.

Bannan maybe Celtic or a Hull .  I dont think he is good enough level for us .

Ireland . Whos going to buy him ;(     Shame QPR was never interested last summer . Have Cardiff got any money?  Bellamy said he is the best player he has ever played with .

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1331 on: May 24, 2013, 11:55:48 AM »
All I can think in the case of Alby is that he's not really had the chance under Lambert since we switched to played with a little more width with the 3 up top. I'd hope he could get back to his best. I like Albrighton. He works hard, he's got a good attitude. I don't think he'll make it long term if I'm being honest, but I hope he proves me wrong. He does deserve enough few swings in the batting cage.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1332 on: May 24, 2013, 12:52:29 PM »
I genuinely believe that Herd can be a very useful right back. It's just that he hasn't had much opportunity there yet.
As back up to Lowton I have no problem with him at all.

If he had a good record of being available I would agree but he seems rather injury prone. PL also seems to use him as cover at centre back rather than right back.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1333 on: May 24, 2013, 01:15:28 PM »
Albrighton probably gets chance has hes been injured but he was looking pretty poor before , maybe PL can sort him out.

Good luck to Bent . I like him as a player and did not let us down . Great scoring record. West ham maybe or Fulham.

Bannan maybe Celtic or a Hull .  I dont think he is good enough level for us .

Ireland . Whos going to buy him ;(     Shame QPR was never interested last summer . Have Cardiff got any money?  Bellamy said he is the best player he has ever played with .

Bannan will probably end up back in Scotland like is suggested here, we'll forget him and he'll get signed by some struggling PL team and become their brilliant playmaker, a la Shaun Maloney.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #1334 on: May 24, 2013, 01:42:31 PM »
Wouldn't be amazed if Bannan went to Celtic.

 


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