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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1667688 times)

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #315 on: May 01, 2013, 03:01:58 PM »
Others like Reo Coker, Young, Downing, Milner, Petrov were overpriced but largely welcomed.

Sorry to pick you up on just one point in your post, which I largely agreed with,  but how can they be overpriced when we made so much money on them?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #316 on: May 01, 2013, 03:10:37 PM »
Do people feel nzogbia is worth another go next season or should be prepared to sell at a loss?

Sell. If we are buying more genuine midfielders this summer and giving game time to ex academy hopefuls - both of which ought to happen - then we should cash in before his value falls even further.


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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #317 on: May 01, 2013, 03:15:14 PM »
Do people feel nzogbia is worth another go next season or should be prepared to sell at a loss?

Definitely keep as far as I'm concerned.  He offers something different when we need to be on the offense.

If someone makes a good offer (or he engineers a move) then sell, otherwise keep as he does offer something different.

Pretty much my take on it as well.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #318 on: May 01, 2013, 03:24:09 PM »
Do people feel nzogbia is worth another go next season or should be prepared to sell at a loss?

Sell. If we are buying more genuine midfielders this summer and giving game time to ex academy hopefuls - both of which ought to happen - then we should cash in before his value falls even further.



I'd probably agree with that although I'm not sure who would take him or what price we would get - certainly a lot less than we paid.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #319 on: May 01, 2013, 03:27:20 PM »
Others like Reo Coker, Young, Downing, Milner, Petrov were overpriced but largely welcomed.

Sorry to pick you up on just one point in your post, which I largely agreed with,  but how can they be overpriced when we made so much money on them?

We left Reo Coker go on a free but spending 8.5m on him was fairly daft. As a player I thought he was a decent signing at the time and I liked him at Villa generally. But I'm sure there are plenty of better midfielders in the league that went for less back then. Struggling to think of examples mind, Tim Cahill though is one.

Downing at 10m after a dreadful season with Boro and injured. Adam Johnson at the same club at the time would have been a better player to bring in I reckon. Milner at 12m from Newcastle, Keegan couldnt turn down that for him. Both were no more than solid premier league players when they joined. Only when Milner was moved into the centre at Villa midway through his final season did he perform any more than acceptable. Downing in a shite team under Houllier starred but his first season was crap. Think we benefitted more from the end of the bubble era in the league with their sales. Mancini or Man City won't spend that kind of money on a player as limited as Milner ever again. 24m it still beggars belief. King Kenny did us a big favour with Downing. 20m again was just crazy.
Young was MON's big success story. A gamble on the big money paid but worked out extremely well. A far better player for the club over a longer period of time than the other two. This is despite the return on Downing and Milner being far superior.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #320 on: May 01, 2013, 03:29:05 PM »
I think Downing was a better option than Johnson who goes through little patches of looking good, but is largely average.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #321 on: May 01, 2013, 03:40:19 PM »
Others like Reo Coker, Young, Downing, Milner, Petrov were overpriced but largely welcomed.

Sorry to pick you up on just one point in your post, which I largely agreed with,  but how can they be overpriced when we made so much money on them?

We left Reo Coker go on a free but spending 8.5m on him was fairly daft. As a player I thought he was a decent signing at the time and I liked him at Villa generally. But I'm sure there are plenty of better midfielders in the league that went for less back then. Struggling to think of examples mind, Tim Cahill though is one.

Downing at 10m after a dreadful season with Boro and injured. Adam Johnson at the same club at the time would have been a better player to bring in I reckon. Milner at 12m from Newcastle, Keegan couldnt turn down that for him. Both were no more than solid premier league players when they joined. Only when Milner was moved into the centre at Villa midway through his final season did he perform any more than acceptable. Downing in a shite team under Houllier starred but his first season was crap. Think we benefitted more from the end of the bubble era in the league with their sales. Mancini or Man City won't spend that kind of money on a player as limited as Milner ever again. 24m it still beggars belief. King Kenny did us a big favour with Downing. 20m again was just crazy.
Young was MON's big success story. A gamble on the big money paid but worked out extremely well. A far better player for the club over a longer period of time than the other two. This is despite the return on Downing and Milner being far superior.

There is an argument to say any modern player is overpriced, but it's all comparative.  NRC I grant you, but the others, and you're being VERY unfair to Milner, contributed and then went for a profit.  If every player did that we'd be well up the table from where we are now!

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #322 on: May 01, 2013, 03:42:19 PM »
I'm not sure Joleon gives a stuff about us anymore for the way we disposed of his big bro Aaron back when Big Brother was just that and for the way our fans laugh and mock his forehead. Wasn't there summat about his kneecaps and Percy's gangster mates too?

He has no worries on that score, trust me.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #323 on: May 01, 2013, 03:53:04 PM »
Sell N'Zogbia. We need to raise funds to boost our transfer budget. Zoggy is likely to have a few takers, where as say Ireland will be incredibly difficult to get rid of.

For the wages he's on, CNZ doesn't do nearly enough. He's been okay since the turn of the year, though pretty average in the last few weeks again, but he doesn't fit into the side well enough. We look disjointed when he plays. If we dropped Gabby or Wiemann, there'd be a place for him, but they're playing far better.

Sell while we can. For the fee we'd get and wages saved, Lambert could bring in two more players.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #324 on: May 01, 2013, 04:05:22 PM »
Sell N'Zogbia. We need to raise funds to boost our transfer budget. Zoggy is likely to have a few takers, where as say Ireland will be incredibly difficult to get rid of.

For the wages he's on, CNZ doesn't do nearly enough. He's been okay since the turn of the year, though pretty average in the last few weeks again, but he doesn't fit into the side well enough. We look disjointed when he plays. If we dropped Gabby or Wiemann, there'd be a place for him, but they're playing far better.

Sell while we can. For the fee we'd get and wages saved, Lambert could bring in two more players.

Couldn't agree more.  even at 5-1 up with 18 minutes to go, Gabby or Andi weren't given a breather to bring him on.  We looked so much better without him in the team!

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #325 on: May 01, 2013, 04:24:45 PM »
All the "new" money in the Premier League next season will see the same old over-inflated prices for British-based players I'm afraid.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #326 on: May 01, 2013, 04:55:31 PM »
I'm still willing to accept £30 million for Ireland and Hutton. Can't say fairer than that.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #327 on: May 01, 2013, 05:01:09 PM »
I actually think it'll mean a second influx of foreigners which is nothing new. This time I think some of the world's top names will join.

Compared to other leagues the EPL will be rich, and as Snieder proves, top clubs need to sell.

I could even see Ronaldo returning to Man U.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #328 on: May 01, 2013, 05:06:48 PM »
I agree N'Zogbia can join Dunne, Ireland, Hutton and Bent on the outward bound list.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #329 on: May 01, 2013, 05:06:48 PM »
I can see a big name leaving a big club out of favour moving to Villa Park this summer to put himself in the window for World Cup.

 


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