Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[eastie]

To sum up. Once again we looked a top half side ....for one half. Its happened for about the sixth time this season.

Forget Baker and forget Agbonlahors miss and forget Weimanns miss can someone explain why we appeared to give up?

Why was Agbonlahor(who had a fine first half) laughing after his miss, that didnt add up in any way.

It will be a struggle to stay up but despite Lambert saying positive things about everybody and everything which doesnt ring true I think we will just make it by possibly one point.

Lamberts coaching staff (mates) do not appear to be having an effect on the players in any way.

Lambert himself like (Martin O'Neill) may not be good enough for a historic club like Aston Villa.

and yes the Liverpool supporters and their manager were very good in acknowledging the 19th minutes applause for our captain.

Agreed , I found it strange agbonlahor laughing like that after his miss - it wasnt funny it was embarrassing !

[JUAN PABLO]

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

Good comment and maybve some people need to be realistic, Bannan fucked up massively with great pass to Suarez but he werent crap IMHO and I am not a fan.

You might get away with playing Bannan against a championship side like Reading but not against Liverpool. 

[Clampy]

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

Good comment and maybve some people need to be realistic, Bannan fucked up massively with great pass to Suarez but he werent crap IMHO and I am not a fan.

You might get away with playing Bannan against a championship side like Reading but not against Liverpool. 

I thought a similar thing about Sylla. He was great against Reading and did ok againt QPR. Yesterday was probably the best midfield he's played against in his career and it showed.

[JUAN PABLO]

I think we needed Delph in there about twenty minutes before he came on. Bannan just isn't up to it for me either.

I think Delph needed to come on at half time. The fact that Sylla was'nt as good as he was in the previous two games did'nt help either.

exactly   HT   . You could see Liverpool was getting on top and was going to score , we needed to hold on for the next 15 minutes buy hey , those Lambert team talks are great

[Risso]

I think we needed Delph in there about twenty minutes before he came on. Bannan just isn't up to it for me either.

I think Delph needed to come on at half time. The fact that Sylla was'nt as good as he was in the previous two games did'nt help either.

exactly   HT   . You could see Liverpool was getting on top and was going to score , we needed to hold on for the next 15 minutes buy hey , those Lambert team talks are great

Not to mention the timely substitutions when things clearly aren't working.  Bringing on KEA yesterday was truly an inspired idea......

[JUAN PABLO]

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

I can understand Bannan's inclusion because him, Westwood and Sylla were the midfield in the last two games that were won, but I'm pretty confident he won't start the next match.

Good comment and maybve some people need to be realistic, Bannan fucked up massively with great pass to Suarez but he werent crap IMHO and I am not a fan.

You might get away with playing Bannan against a championship side like Reading but not against Liverpool. 

I thought a similar thing about Sylla. He was great against Reading and did ok againt QPR. Yesterday was probably the best midfield he's played against in his career and it showed.

The thing is you can improve Bannan with Delph ( he was excellent before he was suspended ) but sylla would have be replaced with KEA?     and he is a poor player .

[olaftab]

The one thought I cannot seem to shake off is why the fuck did Baker make that tackle?

Baker has put in some very telling and precise interventions in the first half. This was  the one he was going to get wrong. Just remember Suarez was the player who got better of him a player ranked in the top 2/3 of world class strikers.

[AlexAlexCropley]

First time back in the lower Holte for a few seasons and i don't remember a weirder or muted atmosphere than that second half.It was like Silent Hill.
Did anyone feel the linesman was ,shall we say, a little too keen to help out pool for the last 10mins.One blatant call over the line not given and seeming instructing pool players to slow it down.

[mr-villa]

I said earlier the atmospere was strange for a (nearly) full house. The scousers didn't add much.
Only gaps I could see were extreme wings of the Holte Lower - not sure how that would not look great?

I saw empty seats in the Trinity lower, not loads just here and there.

Shame you couldn't have been filling one of them yourself.

[olaftab]

Yes sort of "get in" whilst you can as humble pie is cooking up nicely and hopefully will be waiting for some!

Humble pie? Even if we avoid relegation it has been a horrendous awful season and certainly I don't think humble pie will be the order of the day - I'd be hoping people look at the season and question how the hell did things go so badly and make sure not to happen again than be celebrating wildly should we stay up

This is aston villa not wigan !

There are people who have set their stall  on "we are shit and we are going get relegated to Blue Sq Premier" and I sometimes get the feeling that relegation will make them feel vindicated. The Club and Lambert are trying to do something good rather than resort to signing a few more mercenaries on inflated wages to patch up and stay in the Prem league. We are doing this season something we would have had to do when McLeish had us "relegated" in all but name.

[olaftab]

I said earlier the atmospere was strange for a (nearly) full house. The scousers didn't add much.
Only gaps I could see were extreme wings of the Holte Lower - not sure how that would not look great?

I saw empty seats in the Trinity lower, not loads just here and there.

Shame you couldn't have been filling one of them yourself.

We were 500 or so short of ground capacity. Obviously people watching  streamed broadcast were offended by an empty seat here or there.

[olaftab]

First time back in the lower Holte for a few seasons and i don't remember a weirder or muted atmosphere than that second half.It was like Silent Hill.
Did anyone feel the linesman was ,shall we say, a little too keen to help out pool for the last 10mins.One blatant call over the line not given and seeming instructing pool players to slow it down.

I would like to hear from those watching on Sky about Reina's catch under the post and than step back not 1 but 2 over the line?

[Big Dick Edwards]

The one thought I cannot seem to shake off is why the fuck did Baker make that tackle?

Baker has put in some very telling and precise interventions in the first half. This was  the one he was going to get wrong. Just remember Suarez was the player who got better of him a player ranked in the top 2/3 of world class strikers.

I like Baker but he has a tendancy to dive in at this stage of his career. Hopefully with experience he'll modify this side of his game.

[saunders_heroes]

The bloody Ref blew up on exactly 3 mins (added time) which included nearly a minute where there was a player down injured. You'd have thought he would have added it onto the time, but no he didn't bother.

[achilles]

Yes sort of "get in" whilst you can as humble pie is cooking up nicely and hopefully will be waiting for some!

Humble pie? Even if we avoid relegation it has been a horrendous awful season and certainly I don't think humble pie will be the order of the day - I'd be hoping people look at the season and question how the hell did things go so badly and make sure not to happen again than be celebrating wildly should we stay up

This is aston villa not wigan !

There are people who have set their stall  on "we are shit and we are going get relegated to Blue Sq Premier" and I sometimes get the feeling that relegation will make them feel vindicated. The Club and Lambert are trying to do something good rather than resort to signing a few more mercenaries on inflated wages to patch up and stay in the Prem league. We are doing this season something we would have had to do when McLeish had us "relegated" in all but name.

I haven't seen anybody intimate this in the slightest and in fact its an impossiblity but hey don't let that stop you!