Ellis and Charidee

[PeterWithesShin]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

[dave.woodhall]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

Wearing his green overcoat.

[atticus snood]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

[saunders_heroes]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

Not many more turned up to Dennis Mortimer's testimonial either. Let's face it, Villa fans don't like testimonials.

[PeterWithesShin]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

Not many more turned up to Dennis Mortimer's testimonial either. Let's face it, Villa fans don't like testimonials.

I seem to remember a reasonable turnout for Brian Little's. I touched the matchball at that one. I could be wrong though as I was only about 11 so all crowds seemed big in those days.

[saunders_heroes]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Can't argue with that. The McLeish appointment was even worse though.

[PeterWithesShin]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Can't argue with that. The McLeish appointment was even worse though.

It's debatable in my view. McLeish was a damn stupid move though.

[atticus snood]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Ah... but we came straight back up. Will we do that next time?

[atticus snood]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Can't argue with that. The McLeish appointment was even worse though.

It's debatable in my view. McLeish was a damn stupid move though.

HDE appointed Graham Taylor to compensate. Where's our GT now?

[PeterWithesShin]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Ah... but we came straight back up. Will we do that next time?

Are you related to Doug? You don't seem bothered that he treated Barton like shit or that he relegated us 5 years after winning the Europe Cup but seem to prefer him to Randy who hasn't actually relegated us.

[saunders_heroes]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

Not many more turned up to Dennis Mortimer's testimonial either. Let's face it, Villa fans don't like testimonials.

I seem to remember a reasonable turnout for Brian Little's. I touched the matchball at that one. I could be wrong though as I was only about 11 so all crowds seemed big in those days.

I think about 8k turned up for Mortimer's. I remember running onto the pitch at the end.
The point about Villa fans not liking testimonials is right though. I mainly think its a good thing because I don't see why working class people should line the pockets of the considerably richer when it really should be the footballer giving something back to the fan. Shame about Barton's being so poorly attended though.

[dave.woodhall]

What's all this got to do with a hefty donation to charity though?

Because atticus snood asked how history would view him and were we too hard on him? Were we fuck, the old fecker got off light.

Well lets just be grateful for where we are now.

Indeed. Thank fuck Ellis didn't think the manager of Shrewsbury was good enough for a club that had just won the European Cup and that we weren't relegated within 5 years of winning it.

Ah... but we came straight back up. Will we do that next time?

When it comes to making excuses, "He might have taken us from  European champions to division two but at least we came straight back up" has to be amongst the best.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was also a disgrace how little the Villa promoted the game. One of the reasons only about 3K turned up. Although as Dave says the timing of it didn't help either. It was freezing IIRC. I've still got my programme somewhere signed by Ron Saunders while he was in the dugout.

Not many more turned up to Dennis Mortimer's testimonial either. Let's face it, Villa fans don't like testimonials.

I seem to remember a reasonable turnout for Brian Little's. I touched the matchball at that one. I could be wrong though as I was only about 11 so all crowds seemed big in those days.

I think about 8k turned up for Mortimer's. I remember running onto the pitch at the end.
The point about Villa fans not liking testimonials is right though. I mainly think its a good thing because I don't see why working class people should line the pockets of the considerably richer when it really should be the footballer giving something back to the fan. Shame about Barton's being so poorly attended though.

Testimonials were needed more in those days though. From what I remember the Barton family weren't exactly loaded.

They are pretty pointless these days though. Players don't exactly need the money any more.