Clubs that have been relegated

[pauliewalnuts]

To be honest, other than ourselves, QPR, the Albion and possibly Man United, I have no idea what sort of shape other clubs finances are in.

Here's a clue for you then.  Anybody in the Premier League next season is going to have an awful lot more money than those teams that aren't.

There is never a good time to get relegated, but this year is without a doubt a particularly bad one to choose to do it.

The lack of CB investment in January is a sign of them not caring too much, of not having much money, or of being totally blind to what is happening. I don't think I like any of those options.

I've discounted them believing we didn't need to strengthen, as some levels of stupidity I'd put beyond even them.

[eastie]

To be honest, other than ourselves, QPR, the Albion and possibly Man United, I have no idea what sort of shape other clubs finances are in.

Here's a clue for you then.  Anybody in the Premier League next season is going to have an awful lot more money than those teams that aren't.

There is never a good time to get relegated, but this year is without a doubt a particularly bad one to choose to do it.

The lack of CB investment in January is a sign of them not caring too much, of not having much money, or of being totally blind to what is happening. I don't think I like any of those options.

I've discounted them believing we didn't need to strengthen, as some levels of stupidity I'd put beyond even them.

When you say them are you including lambert or not?

[john e]

To be honest, other than ourselves, QPR, the Albion and possibly Man United, I have no idea what sort of shape other clubs finances are in.

Here's a clue for you then.  Anybody in the Premier League next season is going to have an awful lot more money than those teams that aren't.

true
but the problem with football clubs is no matter how much money you throw at them they still cant live within there means
some clubs will have already spent the money on debt before they even get it
either way most of the extra millions will only find its way into players pockets, there wont be any clubs washed with money and no debts, at the end of it all i'd wager that clubs will be in more debt than they are now

this is not aargumentive post against yours which i agreed with, just a making a point that more money will count for nothing really as clubs will still waste it alll away

[pauliewalnuts]

To be honest, other than ourselves, QPR, the Albion and possibly Man United, I have no idea what sort of shape other clubs finances are in.

Here's a clue for you then.  Anybody in the Premier League next season is going to have an awful lot more money than those teams that aren't.

There is never a good time to get relegated, but this year is without a doubt a particularly bad one to choose to do it.

The lack of CB investment in January is a sign of them not caring too much, of not having much money, or of being totally blind to what is happening. I don't think I like any of those options.

I've discounted them believing we didn't need to strengthen, as some levels of stupidity I'd put beyond even them.

When you say them are you including lambert or not?

If he was the one who didn't think we needed to strengthen, then yes.

[Risso]

Maybe John, but they'll be looking to waste it on the likes of Benteke and Weimann.  Would Weimann for example, stay with us in the Championship for say, £20K a week, or move to the likes of the newly minted Fulham or West Brom for £40K a week?  People are starting to notice him, and other teams will be thinking that a player getting into double figures in a poor team like ours will do even better in a stronger side.

[PaulWinch again]

Weimann is also the only genuinely quality youngster we've produced and there's a decent chance he'll be off, so the investing in youth argument is nonsense.

[tomd2103]

If we go down (sadly it's beginning to look more likely by the week) then we need to get it right in the summer if we are going to be competitive in the Championship.  Unfortunately I just don't think we have the right people at the club to put plans in place for that transition. 

[Concrete John]

To be honest, other than ourselves, QPR, the Albion and possibly Man United, I have no idea what sort of shape other clubs finances are in.

Here's a clue for you then.  Anybody in the Premier League next season is going to have an awful lot more money than those teams that aren't.

true
but the problem with football clubs is no matter how much money you throw at them they still cant live within there means
some clubs will have already spent the money on debt before they even get it
either way most of the extra millions will only find its way into players pockets, there wont be any clubs washed with money and no debts, at the end of it all i'd wager that clubs will be in more debt than they are now

this is not aargumentive post against yours which i agreed with, just a making a point that more money will count for nothing really as clubs will still waste it alll away

I've always felt this.  if the TV revenue goes up by 50%, then agents will be looking for 50% more in contract negotiations and selling clubs will be asking for £15m for what was previously a £10m player.  It may take time for it to filter through, but it'll happen!

[maigrait]

The lack of CB investment in January is a sign of them not caring too much, of not having much money, or of being totally blind to what is happening. I don't think I like any of those options.

Can we definitely say that the CBs are to blame for some of our woes? Does the midfield not do enough? Do even the forwards not do enough to track back and clear the danger? If you constantly pummel the CBs then sure they'll make mistakes and let goals in - most defences will but if the rest of the team are not pitching in then it'll make things a lot worse.

Don't get me wrong, I would have loved Samba to come in (always rated him - he's a beast!!) but maybe this isn't the only position we are light in...

Maybe its Lamberts tactics that are exposed (aka not bad on the counter but duff when defending).... dunno lots of questions and not a lot of answers.

If we are to go down, not looking forward to Leicester/Brum/Wolves 'local' derbies... very tedious as they were in the Premier League.

[Clampy]

The lack of experience not coming in during January was baffling at the time and still baffling now.

[Concrete John]

If we go down (sadly it's beginning to look more likely by the week) then we need to get it right in the summer if we are going to be competitive in the Championship.  Unfortunately I just don't think we have the right people at the club to put plans in place for that transition.

I think it looked less likely after Everton and West Ham, but then more likely affer Arsenal.  Expect a lot of that over the next 11 games!

[JUAN PABLO]

The lack of experience not coming in during January was baffling at the time and still baffling now.

Ain't that the truth

[Concrete John]

When you say baffling it is on the face of it, but if you think that experience costs and we didn't have the money/wouldn't spend it, then may be not so much.

[Clampy]

When you say baffling it is on the face of it, but if you think that experience costs and we didn't have the money/wouldn't spend it, then may be not so much.

I suppose it depends on who was available and how much they wanted. That we may never know but bearing in mind the possible cost of going down, it was a hell of a gamble not to bring in no centre havles at all.

[eastie]

I have a feeling that with dunne approaching returning to training he perhaps decided to go with dunne but sods law dunne then broke down again right at the end of the window - if so it was an expensive gamble that could cost us dear.