Just when you think that things couldn't get any worse....

[LeeB]

Grinding out dull 1-0 wins beats losing 8-0 at the west London rent boys any day of the week. As much as the football is dire at times, I have no doubts at all that Allardyce will keep us up.

Hmm, not too sure about that Sendo, it's not a fair comparison.

For starters, the 8 goal pasting at Chelsea isn't something that's going to happen every week, whereas the dull, grinding, rugby style of Allardyce's management does happen pretty much every week.

The 8-0 doesn't happen every week, but playing badly and losing has happened more weeks than not.  You must watch a lot of West Ham games to know that West Ham play the same style every week. The fact that a decent player like Mark Noble has thrived there suggests that you're doing nothing more than repeating media sterotypes.

Ha, Mark Noble's wank.

[LeeB]

Noble is a decent player?

Beat me to it!

[Clampy]

I don't think we'll ever really know the full truth behind that.

If only someone on here had some ITK info about how much there was to spend.......

Indeed.

It would be interesting to know though who the defender was that Lambert spoke about that we were talking to but could'nt afford to get in.

[sendô WHU]

Hmm, not too sure about that Sendo, it's not a fair comparison.

For starters, the 8 goal pasting at Chelsea isn't something that's going to happen every week, whereas the dull, grinding, rugby style of Allardyce's management does happen pretty much every week.

No, some weeks you get spanked at home to Wigan, and we stick three past Chelsea. 

To be fair, both teams have been largely crap to watch although both teams have put in good performances at times. However the table doesn't lie, and as much as I don't particularly like Allardyce or his brand of football he gets the best out of the players under him and more importantly gets results.

[eastie]

Seems that some players we were interested in just werent interested in us - the window has gone , we must make do with what we have and go with it - it will be a nerve wracking season from now on but i hope we can pull it off.

[Dave]

Seems that some players we were interested in just werent interested in us - the window has gone , we must make do with what we have and go with it - it will be a nerve wracking season from now on but i hope we can pull it off.

Or maybe there wasn't any money to spend and pelty was just having you on.

[eastie]

Seems that some players we were interested in just werent interested in us - the window has gone , we must make do with what we have and go with it - it will be a nerve wracking season from now on but i hope we can pull it off.

Or maybe there wasn't any money to spend and pelty was just having you on.

Who is this pelty to whom you refer?
If there was no money to spend why did lambert admit trying and failing to sign the likes of sissoko? What was he hoping to sign  him with - a dozen boxes of haggis ?

[Concrete John]

I don't think we'll ever really know the full truth behind that.

If only someone on here had some ITK info about how much there was to spend.......

Indeed.

It would be interesting to know though who the defender was that Lambert spoke about that we were talking to but could'nt afford to get in.

I'm tempted to say Lescott, as Lambert did speak publicly about him, but given what we did end up spending he'd have never been on our radar, surely?

[pauliewalnuts]

Grinding out dull 1-0 wins beats losing 8-0 at the west London rent boys any day of the week. As much as the football is dire at times, I have no doubts at all that Allardyce will keep us up.

Hmm, not too sure about that Sendo, it's not a fair comparison.

For starters, the 8 goal pasting at Chelsea isn't something that's going to happen every week, whereas the dull, grinding, rugby style of Allardyce's management does happen pretty much every week.

The 8-0 doesn't happen every week, but playing badly and losing has happened more weeks than not.  You must watch a lot of West Ham games to know that West Ham play the same style every week. The fact that a decent player like Mark Noble has thrived there suggests that you're doing nothing more than repeating media sterotypes.

Ha, Mark Noble's wank.

Indeed.

I've not just arrived at this conclusion re Allardyce's style. It's not like he's a fresh faced manager, he's had his teams playing like that for years now, regardless of how much Risso tries to make us believe that Bolton side of his was actually a latter day Brazil 1970.

[Risso]

Grinding out dull 1-0 wins beats losing 8-0 at the west London rent boys any day of the week. As much as the football is dire at times, I have no doubts at all that Allardyce will keep us up.

Hmm, not too sure about that Sendo, it's not a fair comparison.

For starters, the 8 goal pasting at Chelsea isn't something that's going to happen every week, whereas the dull, grinding, rugby style of Allardyce's management does happen pretty much every week.

The 8-0 doesn't happen every week, but playing badly and losing has happened more weeks than not.  You must watch a lot of West Ham games to know that West Ham play the same style every week. The fact that a decent player like Mark Noble has thrived there suggests that you're doing nothing more than repeating media sterotypes.

Ha, Mark Noble's wank.

By that you mean he didn't have that good a game against us.  I saw a bit of the Spammers game against Norwich, and he was superb, far better than any midfield performance any of our rabble have managed this season.  He's certainly a far better player than the likes of Delph, KEA, Bannan et al.

[Clampy]

Possibly may have been Lescott early on in the window but I've a feeling he tried for someone else before the window closed. Anyway I'm just glad we got a couple in at least. Dawkins looks like he could make a difference coming off the bench.

[eastie]

What i want in the main is to see my side win games, if we win with style all the better but the result means more than the performance .

The days of george grahams boring arsenal grinding out 1-0 wins would suit me as long as we win - we all want to win and score loads of goals with free flowing football but give me a scrappy 1-0 win over a 3-3 draw anyday.

[Risso]

I've not just arrived at this conclusion re Allardyce's style. It's not like he's a fresh faced manager, he's had his teams playing like that for years now, regardless of how much Risso tries to make us believe that Bolton side of his was actually a latter day Brazil 1970.

Bolton played decent football and he assembled a very good collection of footballers there.  Not many teams finish 6th by playing an exclusive brand of Pulis-style hoofball.  I watched a fair bit of Bolton back then as we lived there and the wife and all her family are Bolton fans, plus we entertained clients there at our firm's executive box and they were a decent side, physical when necessary, but capable of some very exciting play as well.  Ask any Bolton fan, they'll put you right.

[not3bad]

we all want to win and score loads of goals with free flowing football but give me a scrappy 1-0 win over a 3-3 draw anyday.

Strange - MON gave you plenty of those yet you celebrated when he went.

[Concrete John]

If there was no money to spend why did lambert admit trying and failing to sign the likes of sissoko? What was he hoping to sign  him with - a dozen boxes of haggis?

The actual fee for Sissoko wasn't all that much more than we ended up paying for Sylla.