Just when you think that things couldn't get any worse....

[Clampy]

Has the eastie and clampy love in started yet ?

He's off the site now until Saturday. I'm so upset.

[danlanza]

Has the eastie and clampy love in started yet ?

He's off the site now until Saturday. I'm so upset.

No need for crocodile tears Clampy. eastie will be back with avengance.

[Jockey Randall]

I actually think there are a lot of wrongs written about TSM as well. Tin hat time I think....

I agree with everyone that says his brand of football was woeful and boring to watch, but I certainly don't think he's as useless a manager as some people make out. The season before he took over we finished on 48 points. The following summer from the side that started the most games the previous season we lost Friedel, Luke Young, Downing, Ashley Young and Reo-Coker. That's a fairly big chunk of the first XI and a massive chasm in quality to fill. So then we signed N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton - clearly not enough to stem the slide down the table. It would have been an impressive feat to even reach the 48 points we got in 10-11. But before we lost Petrov we were actually on for roughly 43 points last season. Not bad considering all the talent we lost in the summer?

Saying all that, I like to see my team play with a bit of attacking intent and I didn't ever want him as manager. To say he was completely useless is way off the mark though. I think both managers have just been victims of a club intent on cost cutting for the past 2 years.

[eastie]

Has the eastie and clampy love in started yet ?

He's off the site now until Saturday. I'm so upset.

No need for crocodile tears Clampy. eastie will be back with avengance.

 Damn right he will danny boy !

[danlanza]

Has the eastie and clampy love in started yet ?

He's off the site now until Saturday. I'm so upset.

No need for crocodile tears Clampy. eastie will be back with avengance.

 Damn right he will danny boy !

Welcome back eastie. You could nomore stay of this site than become a Nose.

[Clampy]

An hour and a half is good going for him to be fair. Saturday was a bit optimistic.

[Jockey Randall]

Fat Face spent as much as Lambert did last summer,

Not sure how you've arrived at that conclusion, by my calculations Lambert spent loads more.

What are your calculations?

According to transferleague.co.uk West Ham spent £18,250,000

We spent 23.7m, so more, but not really "loads more".

Then there's the fact that, if we wanted to - and I am sure our glorious leaders are itching to - we could sell one of those players Lambert bought and cover a massive chunk of that total outlay.

I think you need to cotton on to the way things are, JR, it's not enough that our league results and position are shit, it actually has to be EVERYTHING that is shit, which means all his signings are gash, too.

So if we take off the £3.25m adds on for Jarvis if the initial fee was around £7.5m that leaves them having a net spend of around £15m.
That site also has Beast down as costing £10m so, presuming they're adds on as well and taking away the £2m it has down for Sylla we would be on around £18.7m for the summer. Not bad considering we needed around 5/6 to slot straight into the first team. So the question is, considering West Ham started the summer with a stronger squad than we did, then spent around £3.7 million less, is BFS really doing that much of a better job than Lambert with his team currently 6 points ahead of us?

[Risso]

Those figures are just plain wrong.  And yes, Allardyce is clearly doing a much better job than Lambert, with a newly promoted side.  Lambert has performed appallingly, and West Ham are comfortably mid-table.

[Legion]

Di Canio is available...

[JJ-AV]

If there is anything in the Allardyce link then West Ham have a replacement awaiting...

In all seriousness, you could see why Randy might want Allardyce (although I agree the the rumour is almost certainly bollocks). If he absolutely wants us to stay up and has lost faith in Lambert then it makes sense in the short term. However, you would question why he didn't just allow Lambert to spend the money it would cost to sack him/sign Allardyce.

[danlanza]

So our Managerial contenders are
1- A Bagpuss looking, sourfaced arse of a football manager or
2- Adolf Hitlers closest living relative.

How could things get any better? Oh dear me.

[newtonsballs]

If there is anything in the Allardyce link then West Ham have a replacement awaiting...

In all seriousness, you could see why Randy might want Allardyce (although I agree the the rumour is almost certainly bollocks). If he absolutely wants us to stay up and has lost faith in Lambert then it makes sense in the short term. However, you would question why he didn't just allow Lambert to spend the money it would cost to sack him/sign Allardyce.

You are assuming Randy knows what he is doing - history contradicts that assumption.

[dekko]

I may have missed something or accidentally skipped a page or so, but just to clarify:

Is there any evidence to support this other than what some bloke told some bloke who posts on a west ham forum?

[Legion]

Nope.

[Jockey Randall]

Those figures are just plain wrong.  And yes, Allardyce is clearly doing a much better job than Lambert, with a newly promoted side.  Lambert has performed appallingly, and West Ham are comfortably mid-table.

Points are by far a better judge of a team's overall ability than where they are in the table. I'm surprised you think it's the other way round? West Ham are 6 points ahead of us - not a great deal.

Regardless of whether they are a newly promoted side the squad they started the summer with was better than ours - or do you dispute this? Out of the team that has started most games for them this season, 7 of them were there last season (8 if you include Tomkins who has the same amount of starts as Collins). Out of our most started XI this season, we've replaced 10 of the players from last season due to injuries and financial reasons. I don't really see where there is a case for saying he is doing a better job if he has only spent roughly £3.5/£4m less on a squad that were better in the first place? Or are you saying the figures given on that website are totally inaccurate? If so, what do you think the figures are? I'm geniunely interested to see if there is a better case for saying Allardyce is doing a better job. For the record, I don't think Allardyce is a bad manager, I think he's done well at West ham. He just plays a brand of football that makes you want to ram your head through a brick wall.