Just when you think that things couldn't get any worse....

[Chico Hamilton III]

Spurs had a youth policy?

How did I miss that?

[paul_e]

Allerdyce could stabilise the team and keep us in the division, which I think Lambert can and will also do.  What he can't do is build something longterm that can eventually take on the top sides without throwing money at it, which is what I believe Lambert can do through a focused youth and scouting policy.

In todays climate i dont think you can build and take on the top sides without considerable finance - the problem will be once we unearth young gems they will be sold to the bigger clubs who with champions league revenue are way outvof our reach to compete with financially- without massive investment 7-10th place is as good as its likely to get.

I think it's about growing organically and starting to generate income that pushes you on. 

Spurs in the example I think of - started a youth policy with Jol and although lost a few along the way (Berbatov and Carrick) reinvested and kept going. 

Exactly if we sell Benteke for 25m and reinvest that money in buying 2-3 players with equal potential then we might have 3 who are being fought over in a years time, maybe 1-2 of them leave but we get another 3-4 and 'go again'.  It's all about reinvesting.  Our problem has been that we've reinvested badly, at some point we need to stop that rot.

[Toronto Villa]

Ah- yes phil brown and paul jewell, both managers who got their clubs to the premier league , kept them up and look where they are now , lambert will end up being classed at that level i feel- well done toronto , good comparison.

No, I didn't compare him to either of those, you just did. You really have cornered the H&V market on sensationalism and melodrama which is is why you feel so at home in the transfer thread. Now, you're touting Gus Poyet as the next big thing, who has achieved all of one promotion in his illustrious managerial career from League One to the Championship, and never managed in the Premier League. Yet he's the saviour. Hilarious.

[eastie]

Poyet may or may not be the saviour - lambert sure as hell is not , but i expect by the end of the season even you  toronto will finally see that.


I am not touting poyet just suggesting he along with many others would be an alternative to the current manager.

[damon loves JT]

Growing organically is important, for sure. And I think our carbon neutral status will allow us to tap into the key vegan lesbian demographic.

[Clampy]

I think judgement on Lambert should be reserved until the end of the season. It's not been as good as we all expected and at times it's been unbearable to watch. I think it's a bit early to be calling for the likes of BFS or Poyet though.

[Chris Smith]

Poyet may or may not be the saviour - lambert sure as hell is not , but i expect by the end of the season even you  toronto will finally see that.


I am not touting poyet just suggesting he along with many others would be an alternative to the current manager.

You need to be a bit more forward thinking, decide who you want as the manager after next for when you turn this time next year. Just thinking one sacking at a time is getting us nowhere.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's pretty amazing to suggest Lambert is this year's "promoted manager who disappears into obscurity" but to then suggest the obvious replacement a bloke who is right down the league and hasn't achieved more than a promotion from the bottom flight.

To then go on and suggest he's way out of our grasp is laughably nonsensical.

[pauliewalnuts]

Spurs had a youth policy?

How did I miss that?

I was amazed to hear that, too.

[Risso]

Fat Face spent as much as Lambert did last summer,

Not sure how you've arrived at that conclusion, by my calculations Lambert spent loads more.

[Jockey Randall]

The end of the season means nothing. It's as clear as day that the season could go either way. There's no point sticking with Lambert now unless we are prepared to see it through. If we sack him at the end of the season we would have been far better off sacking him at the start of January. We need to stick with him for a couple of seasons at the bare minimum to see whether this policy of investing in youth is actually working. Judging him and this policy after one season is completely pointless imo.

[Jockey Randall]

Fat Face spent as much as Lambert did last summer,

Not sure how you've arrived at that conclusion, by my calculations Lambert spent loads more.

What are your calculations?

[pauliewalnuts]

Fat Face spent as much as Lambert did last summer,

Not sure how you've arrived at that conclusion, by my calculations Lambert spent loads more.

What are your calculations?

According to transferleague.co.uk West Ham spent £18,250,000

We spent 23.7m, so more, but not really "loads more".

Then there's the fact that, if we wanted to - and I am sure our glorious leaders are itching to - we could sell one of those players Lambert bought and cover a massive chunk of that total outlay.

I think you need to cotton on to the way things are, JR, it's not enough that our league results and position are shit, it actually has to be EVERYTHING that is shit, which means all his signings are gash, too.

[pauliewalnuts]

The end of the season means nothing. It's as clear as day that the season could go either way. There's no point sticking with Lambert now unless we are prepared to see it through. If we sack him at the end of the season we would have been far better off sacking him at the start of January. We need to stick with him for a couple of seasons at the bare minimum to see whether this policy of investing in youth is actually working. Judging him and this policy after one season is completely pointless imo.

I agree entirely with this.

If we got relegated, what kind of manager do people think we'd get in and give us a chance of bouncing straight back?

I've had enough of the endless squandering of money paying off managers and paying for new ones to come in, let's put some trust in the bloke (which the board seem to have done, and which most people here have done), back him with the money needed (fingers crossed on that one, because January was a shambles) and give him time to rebuild the club.

I understand those who are angry at the way this season has gone, but just think we need to be a bit calmer about this and not give in to our natural desire to sack the bloke / make someone pay for it.

EDIT it actually isn't "what kind of manager do we think we'd get in", it should be "what kind of manager do we think Lerner and Faulkner would get in". We've seen their cluelessness already with managerial appointments, and that was when we were operating as a top flight club.

I shudder to think what sort of dross they'd get in if we were in the championship.

[Chico Hamilton III]

£2.5m of West Ham's spend in the summer was on James Collins.....

£11m on Jarvis