Just when you think that things couldn't get any worse....

[LeeB]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Lambert is in his 8th year in management - i suspect that when gus poyet reaches his 8th year in management he will have already achieved far far more than  mr lambert will ever achieve.

Sadly though i think poyet will end up at a much bigger job than villa and doubt we could tempt him.

Based on what?

[Chico Hamilton III]

Fat Face spent as much as Lambert did last summer, add a free Andy Carroll and Joe Cole ( there's another £35m worth of "talent") and he's currently sitting 2 wins above us in the league after losing against us last week. His chairman, fans and, quite possibly, players seem to want him out of West Ham

Lambert might be no good, but Sam's no better.

[eastie]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Lambert is in his 8th year in management - i suspect that when gus poyet reaches his 8th year in management he will have already achieved far far more than  mr lambert will ever achieve.

Sadly though i think poyet will end up at a much bigger job than villa and doubt we could tempt him.

Based on what?

Everything ive seen so far suggests to me poyet will be a top manager - i expect the likes of chelsea and spurs to be after him in future years while the likes of colchester and chesterfield covet mr lamberts services.

[Concrete John]

Everything you said about Poyet could have and would have been said about Lambert prior to us appointing him.

[eastie]

Everything you said about Poyet could have and would have been said about Lambert prior to us appointing him.

That could be said for many managers - some come off , some fail , unfortunately i think the job is too big for lambert- i hope he proves me and others wrong but i really cant see him being successful here.

[avfc_1874]

Think I would give up with football if we appointed another anti-football manager.

[not3bad]

Everything you said about Poyet could have and would have been said about Lambert prior to us appointing him.

And was - by many Villa fans.  Perhaps we should resurrect the thread about him that was started halfway through TSM's reign?

[Ads]

Oh for fucks sake, this endless doom saying is getting on my tits.

If Aston Villa snapped their fingers, then Gus Poyet would leave bloody Brighton in a flash.

[Toronto Villa]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Lambert is in his 8th year in management - i suspect that when gus poyet reaches his 8th year in management he will have already achieved far far more than  mr lambert will ever achieve.

Sadly though i think poyet will end up at a much bigger job than villa and doubt we could tempt him.

Based on what?

Based on absolutely nothing at all. Lambert hasn't covered himself in glory this season, but FFS, now Gus Poyet is better than him. Give me a break. I realise the man's stock has fallen but to write him off to that level is nuts. One more defeat and he'll be below Phil Brown and Paul Jewell.

And fucking Sam Allardyce...we may as well just stop playing the game entirely if his carry on rolls into town.

[eastie]

Everything you said about Poyet could have and would have been said about Lambert prior to us appointing him.

And was - by many Villa fans.  Perhaps we should resurrect the thread about him that was started halfway through TSM's reign?

You are right , many of us wanted lambert but not many of us could ever have imagined the season being as bad as this - i am happy to hold my hands up and accept i was wrong - it was a mistake .

This is a forum and we are all entitled to our opinions .

[PaulWinch again]

I'm sorry but Allardyce may be functional at what he does however that doesn't mean I want him near Villa. Lambert has cocked up a lot, but his ideas are in the right place. If he were to go, there must be plenty of better options than Allardyce.

[eastie]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Lambert is in his 8th year in management - i suspect that when gus poyet reaches his 8th year in management he will have already achieved far far more than  mr lambert will ever achieve.

Sadly though i think poyet will end up at a much bigger job than villa and doubt we could tempt him.

Based on what?

Based on absolutely nothing at all. Lambert hasn't covered himself in glory this season, but FFS, now Gus Poyet is better than him. Give me a break. I realise the man's stock has fallen but to write him off to that level is nuts. One more defeat and he'll be below Phil Brown and Paul Jewell.

And fucking Sam Allardyce...we may as well just stop playing the game entirely if his carry on rolls into town.

Ah- yes phil brown and paul jewell, both managers who got their clubs to the premier league , kept them up and look where they are now , lambert will end up being classed at that level i feel- well done toronto , good comparison.

[Concrete John]

Allerdyce could stabilise the team and keep us in the division, which I think Lambert can and will also do.  What he can't do is build something longterm that can eventually take on the top sides without throwing money at it, which is what I believe Lambert can do through a focused youth and scouting policy.

[eastie]

Allerdyce could stabilise the team and keep us in the division, which I think Lambert can and will also do.  What he can't do is build something longterm that can eventually take on the top sides without throwing money at it, which is what I believe Lambert can do through a focused youth and scouting policy.

In todays climate i dont think you can build and take on the top sides without considerable finance - the problem will be once we unearth young gems they will be sold to the bigger clubs who with champions league revenue are way outvof our reach to compete with financially- without massive investment 7-10th place is as good as its likely to get.

[Concrete John]

Allerdyce could stabilise the team and keep us in the division, which I think Lambert can and will also do.  What he can't do is build something longterm that can eventually take on the top sides without throwing money at it, which is what I believe Lambert can do through a focused youth and scouting policy.

In todays climate i dont think you can build and take on the top sides without considerable finance - the problem will be once we unearth young gems they will be sold to the bigger clubs who with champions league revenue are way outvof our reach to compete with financially- without massive investment 7-10th place is as good as its likely to get.

I think it's about growing organically and starting to generate income that pushes you on. 

Spurs in the example I think of - started a youth policy with Jol and although lost a few along the way (Berbatov and Carrick) reinvested and kept going.