Just when you think that things couldn't get any worse....

[Jockey Randall]

It's very well suggesting other managers but I just don't see where these players are that Lambert has had at his disposal to make us into a mid table side like West Ham this season? Allardyce began the summer with a better squad than ours and a squad he'd already had a season to assemble. They then spent a similar amount to us in transfer fees and most probably a shit load more on wages. It's got them mid table. Allardyce is clearly not a fool. He just plays an effective but extremely boring style of football that will keep getting him jobs in the industry.

Lambert spent roughly £23m adding to a squad which were arguably the worst in the league if the end of last season was anything to go by. We needed some major repair work on the squad and £23m on the amount of players we bought isn't a great deal in the current Premier League climate. With the players we have, we are where we should be. It's as simple as that. No Allardyce or Ferguson or whoever is going to change that fact. I think we'll be much better off in a few years when we've given Lambert sufficient time. It's a similar situation to Rodgers at Liverpool, I think he's turning them around following the poor spending era of King Kenny but it's not going to happen overnight. I suppose it comes down to whether you think it's the right call to build a squad who will see us in a better position in 5 years time, or spend more money on the here and now? There are pros and cons to both. Personally, I think building for the future and risk getting relegated in the short term is the better option.

I bet there are several squads in the Premier League that didn't cost £23m in total, never mind having that spent on them this summer.

You're probably right, but I'll also bet these were built over several seasons where players have been given time to develop into Premier League players and the manager has been given time to assemble his own squad, not just over one summer window. Like Lambert at Norwich for example.

[Boz]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

[Risso]

It's very well suggesting other managers but I just don't see where these players are that Lambert has had at his disposal to make us into a mid table side like West Ham this season? Allardyce began the summer with a better squad than ours and a squad he'd already had a season to assemble. They then spent a similar amount to us in transfer fees and most probably a shit load more on wages. It's got them mid table. Allardyce is clearly not a fool. He just plays an effective but extremely boring style of football that will keep getting him jobs in the industry.

Lambert spent roughly £23m adding to a squad which were arguably the worst in the league if the end of last season was anything to go by. We needed some major repair work on the squad and £23m on the amount of players we bought isn't a great deal in the current Premier League climate. With the players we have, we are where we should be. It's as simple as that. No Allardyce or Ferguson or whoever is going to change that fact. I think we'll be much better off in a few years when we've given Lambert sufficient time. It's a similar situation to Rodgers at Liverpool, I think he's turning them around following the poor spending era of King Kenny but it's not going to happen overnight. I suppose it comes down to whether you think it's the right call to build a squad who will see us in a better position in 5 years time, or spend more money on the here and now? There are pros and cons to both. Personally, I think building for the future and risk getting relegated in the short term is the better option.

I bet there are several squads in the Premier League that didn't cost £23m in total, never mind having that spent on them this summer.

You're probably right, but I'll also bet these were built over several seasons where players have been given time to develop into Premier League players and not just over one summer window.

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

[Concrete John]

It's very well suggesting other managers but I just don't see where these players are that Lambert has had at his disposal to make us into a mid table side like West Ham this season? Allardyce began the summer with a better squad than ours and a squad he'd already had a season to assemble. They then spent a similar amount to us in transfer fees and most probably a shit load more on wages. It's got them mid table. Allardyce is clearly not a fool. He just plays an effective but extremely boring style of football that will keep getting him jobs in the industry.

Lambert spent roughly £23m adding to a squad which were arguably the worst in the league if the end of last season was anything to go by. We needed some major repair work on the squad and £23m on the amount of players we bought isn't a great deal in the current Premier League climate. With the players we have, we are where we should be. It's as simple as that. No Allardyce or Ferguson or whoever is going to change that fact. I think we'll be much better off in a few years when we've given Lambert sufficient time. It's a similar situation to Rodgers at Liverpool, I think he's turning them around following the poor spending era of King Kenny but it's not going to happen overnight. I suppose it comes down to whether you think it's the right call to build a squad who will see us in a better position in 5 years time, or spend more money on the here and now? There are pros and cons to both. Personally, I think building for the future and risk getting relegated in the short term is the better option.

I bet there are several squads in the Premier League that didn't cost £23m in total, never mind having that spent on them this summer.

You're probably right, but I'll also bet these were built over several seasons where players have been given time to develop into Premier League players and not just over one summer window.

Precisely.

Most of those squads would be the recently promoted clubs where they had those players at a lower level and developed with them.

[not3bad]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Steve Mclaren

[Jockey Randall]

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

Have you built some sort of time machine and seen us playing in league 1 in 5 years time then?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

That's for the club to decide.

If you employed an Electrician who kept electrocuting everybody with his fucked up wiring, you'd sack him, you wouldn't wait till you got a replacement.

If he takes us down after spending £25m, he'll have been a failure.
Surely it would be club policy anyway, McCatpiss (rightly) got the sack just for coming close.

[Concrete John]

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

It's a colossal mistake if we go down.  If we don't, it's a calculated gamble that will pay off, or not, in a few years. 

[eastie]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

[Risso]

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

Have you built some sort of time machine and seen us playing in league 1 in 5 years time then?

Two, not five.

[cdward]

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

It's a colossal mistake if we go down.  If we don't, it's a calculated gamble that will pay off, or not, in a few years. 

Ditto.
It's not a colossal mistake, we are not sitting bottom of the league being cast adrift points wise.
It's more of a calculated risk. The colossal mistake was the appointment of TSM.

[Jockey Randall]

Lambert chose to go down the route he did.  The fact that it's been a colossal mistake is his own fault.

Have you built some sort of time machine and seen us playing in league 1 in 5 years time then?

Two, not five.

Nice work.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

[Risso]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Let's get McLeish back then, he won the League Cup afterall.

[eastie]

Putting Fat Sam aside for one moment, IF we go down, Lambert has to be sacked.
No way should he be allowed to stay on.

We'll see at the end of the season what Carbon Neutral and the Invisible Man intend to do.

And replaced with who??

Gus poyet.

A man who hasn't achieved as much as Lambert, good call.

Lambert is in his 8th year in management - i suspect that when gus poyet reaches his 8th year in management he will have already achieved far far more than  mr lambert will ever achieve.

Sadly though i think poyet will end up at a much bigger job than villa and doubt we could tempt him.