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Offline Risso

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #450 on: February 03, 2013, 10:43:42 AM »
It is a difficult run in, but I see 7 more than winnable games.

Of which we probably won't win any.  Wigan, Southampton and Newcastle at home were winnable games, which even if we'd won one of them would mean we wouldn't be in the bottom three.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #451 on: February 03, 2013, 10:47:42 AM »
I think there are winnable games a plenty to;

West Ham, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland are the key four that I think we need to win. The Liverpool and Chelsea games are not beyond us either.

Away from home there are games against Reading, Norwich and Wigan, yet I feel a cheeky point at Arsenal is on the cards and I would love us to beat Stoke.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #452 on: February 03, 2013, 10:48:53 AM »
Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #453 on: February 03, 2013, 10:51:49 AM »
A point away at home against Everton is a great result if you were winning or even drawing games at home,we're not. Also teams will never fold against us because they know how fragile we are so they know it's worth battling til the end and throwing the kitchen sink at us no matter what the score is. Its all very depressing

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #454 on: February 03, 2013, 11:06:29 AM »
Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

I love Shaun Teale. Even though we had a good defence under BL, I was sad to see ST leave

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #455 on: February 03, 2013, 11:18:13 AM »
It is a difficult run in, but I see 7 more than winnable games.

Of which we probably won't win any.  Wigan, Southampton and Newcastle at home were winnable games, which even if we'd won one of them would mean we wouldn't be in the bottom three.

You may be right mate. The games against our fellow strugglers will be absolutely key. We simply must win against Reading, QPR and Wigan at the very minimum. Goal difference is also massively against us.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #456 on: February 03, 2013, 11:21:27 AM »
It is a difficult run in, but I see 7 more than winnable games.

Actually, after yesterday's draw, four wins and a few draws might be enough. Beat West Ham, QPR, Reading and  Fulham and surely we could get draws from Sunderland, Stoke and Norwich? Perhaps we can get surprise points against Arsenal and Liverpool too.

We still have Wigan at the end of the season too. If we can get to 36 points before we play Wigan we will stay up. We drew our way to safety last season, four wins and some good draws could do the job again.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #457 on: February 03, 2013, 11:21:33 AM »

Chelsea (h) - difficult


f**k knows how to beat us 8-0 , they seem to let all the shite teams around us pick up points against them. These can be beat .     

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #458 on: February 03, 2013, 11:30:33 AM »
We normally have a good record against them at Villa Park, so I live in hope.

That game at Stamford Bridge was just terrible. It was that bad that half way through the match I was undecided if I wanted to go back in time and start the match again, or just get the bloody thing finished.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #459 on: February 03, 2013, 11:31:39 AM »

Chelsea (h) - difficult


f**k knows how to beat us 8-0 , they seem to let all the shite teams around us pick up points against them. These can be beat .     

 Yes but not by us.

How many have we won in the last 40 games? - to expect us to start winning now with a defence devoid of confidence is over optimistic to say the least

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #460 on: February 03, 2013, 11:35:51 AM »
A point away at home against Everton is a great result if you were winning or even drawing games at home,we're not. Also teams will never fold against us because they know how fragile we are so they know it's worth battling til the end and throwing the kitchen sink at us no matter what the score is. Its all very depressing
I think this is unfortunately the case.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #461 on: February 03, 2013, 11:43:42 AM »
Shaun Teale on Talksport just now: "Attack the ball. No matter how many players are around it, there's only one ball. Make it yours."

I'm no Shaun Teale but have been saying the same all season.  Center halves should be attacking every ball that comes into the box and having seen Vlaar's 'marking' of Fellani for the equalizer has there ever been a truer word.  A statue would have given it just as good a go.

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #462 on: February 03, 2013, 11:47:29 AM »
I think there are winnable games a plenty to;

West Ham, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland are the key four that I think we need to win. The Liverpool and Chelsea games are not beyond us either.

Away from home there are games against Reading, Norwich and Wigan, yet I feel a cheeky point at Arsenal is on the cards and I would love us to beat Stoke.

I just don't see why we will suddenly start to win games when we have only managed 4 wins so far?

I think there is allot of straw clutching going on.

I really want us to stay up, and I would love us to put together a great run that will see us safe, but I am struggling to see it happening.

I don't think Lambert can motivate them or produce the tactics over the rest of the season.

Even in our last relegation season we managed some good results that flattered to deceive

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #463 on: February 03, 2013, 11:49:46 AM »
Same as what everyone has said, I originally did not give them a cat in bells chance of winning, even including Everton in my accumulator. With the luck I have, it was no surprise therefore to see us winning.

From what I saw on the stream yesterday, and from second half v Newcastle, the players appear to be giving more effort, almost as if they have realised the severity of the situation. This would normally give me some hope for the remainder of the season however I am still puzzled how we didn't manage to get someone into defence during the last transfer window. Clark's confidence is shot to pieces and he desperately needs time out of the game to revitalise himself.

One other observation that makes me smile when I see it, as I don't understand why they do it; Our midfield do an awful lot of pointing when a runner get beyond them. They do this and then just stay as they are. Westwood does this a lot, and I saw Al Ahmedi do it yesterday. This was despite the defenders being already outnumbered.

Of the remaining fixtures;

West Ham (h) - massive and must win game, just for a lift if anything. They will bombard us with crosses
Arsenal (a) - 4 days after they play Bayern Champs League, they may rest players
Man City (h) - unlikely to get anything
Reading (a) - massive and must win
QPR (h) - massive and must win
Liverpool (h) - if they make Europa League quarter final, it is 4 days after this. Team selection may be weaker
Stoke (a) - difficult match, but it is possible
Fulham (h) - need to get something out of this
Man Utd (a) - If they make champions league semis, team selection may be weaker
Sunderland (h) - need to get something out of this
Norwich (a) - need to get something out of this
Chelsea (h) - difficult
Wigan (a) - As Les McQueen said in League of Gentlemen, "this is where you shit yourself"

Can we do it? I'm an optimist, but there are very worrying signs. I'm not so sure

The problem is simply this. U agree with your match predictions of what we need over the coming games. Unfortunately it means winning 3 out our next five. As winnable as some of the games are, we've only won 4 all season! So how likely is it we win 3 from 5 ?

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Re: Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #464 on: February 03, 2013, 11:55:26 AM »
I think there are winnable games a plenty to;

West Ham, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland are the key four that I think we need to win. The Liverpool and Chelsea games are not beyond us either.

Away from home there are games against Reading, Norwich and Wigan, yet I feel a cheeky point at Arsenal is on the cards and I would love us to beat Stoke.

I just don't see why we will suddenly start to win games when we have only managed 4 wins so far?

I think there is allot of straw clutching going on.

I really want us to stay up, and I would love us to put together a great run that will see us safe, but I am struggling to see it happening.

I don't think Lambert can motivate them or produce the tactics over the rest of the season.

Even in our last relegation season we managed some good results that flattered to deceive

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