Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

[The Situation]

This is probably the first post match thread where I've expressed anger and dispair. On reflection when I'm normally trying to tell others its not as bad as some make out on previous post match threads, I think I'm being quite fair.

Away to Everton you couldnt ask for much more, except our same old recurring problems which come back to haunt us. We were not defensively poor today compared to previous games, just couldn't hold it together when it really mattered because today would have been amazingly important in our fight to stay up in the premier league and wouldn't be so angry over the pathetic defeats at home to Wigan, Southampton and Newcastle... but I do think those 3 defeats could really cost us in the end. Even under Mcleish I'm not sure if we'd lose those games.

from a more optimistic Villa fan... 2 very important points dropped today. Not listening to this bollocks about taken a point before the game. We were winning by 2 goals at a place hard to win and concede in injury time from a bloody corner to draw, when you have the rare opportunity to be winning by two.goals at Everton you simply cannot give up such a position, especially when we've been on.such a poor run and and 3 points today would have dramatically improved the players and fans confidence.

probably wrote too much and drunk too much... think might have another bottle of beer.

[pauliewalnuts]

All true, Situation, but on the other hand, we put in a decent performance, got a point, and looked stronger defensively overall (as you said) compared to previous matches.

We absolutely must win some of the on-paper "easier" home games, though. Points at places like Everton are an unexpected bonus. Being able to take more positives from it are extra bonuses.

That's not saying I think we'll stay up, I suspect we won't, it is just looking to take a positive, and seeing several things.

[The Situation]

On a side note, my mate sent me a picture of Wolfy at Goodison!

Post it up then

Pic

Why the obsession with this bloke ?

I saw him today as well....... and so what? He's just a bloke at a football match

I feel bad about it.

I know he's a legend (for past things he's done) and I too get excited when I spot him, but sometimes I think he's going to come on here and see this sort of stuff and get really upset.

He's quite clearly a person with certain issues which make him vulnerable, and whilst I thnk mentioning him in reminiscences is ok, posting pictures and what not is a little bit too far, he could probably do without it.

That's not me speaking as a mod BTW, it's just a general reflection that it makes me feel a bit uneasy.

mind if you give some background on the fella? why is he a Villa fan legend?

[Pat McMahon]

For their third goal there was nobody on the post, unless Weimann was meant to be marking that space ( I think he was marking the area a few metres to the side of the post).

Again, on the positive side our goals were wonderful, particularly the 3rd. Gabby should always start when we play Everton, as he seems to have a great scoring record against them too.

[KevinGage]

We play badly =  we don't win.

We play well =  we don't win. 

[JUAN PABLO]

You know what, we were very good today, and that referee has actually shat all over us. That performance from him was an absolute, total and utter disgrace, and he shouldn't be allowed to see another game of football, let alone officiate at one.

Sure, we're paying the price for how poor we've been at defending leads, but talk about luck going against you there. That was horrendous.

I have always thought Jones is easily the worse ref in the Prem

[olaftab]

If anyone wants to insult me, that's ok. I really am the most massive tosser.

So how big is your caber?

[Brend'Watkins]

No, I know, MB, and I don't mean it in any way as a pop at you, I am just talking in general terms about how he's discussed on here (there have been photos before), and I might be overreacting, but I just feel a bit uneasy about it that's all.

Count me in on this too. Give the man a break.

[tomd2103]

For their third goal there was nobody on the post, unless Weimann was meant to be marking that space ( I think he was marking the area a few metres to the side of the post).

Again, on the positive side our goals were wonderful, particularly the 3rd. Gabby should always start when we play Everton, as he seems to have a great scoring record against them too.

I noticed that on MOTD Pat, but I also noticed that there was someone on the near post on an earlier corner that was shown.  Really poor goals to concede.  As the first goal highlighted, Clark just isn't strong enough to get into the wrestling matches with forwards that he seems to favour.  You would have thought that a) Clark would have realised that himself and changed his game b) someone on the coaching staff would have told him to stop doing it.   

[Des Little]

For their third goal there was nobody on the post, unless Weimann was meant to be marking that space ( I think he was marking the area a few metres to the side of the post).

Again, on the positive side our goals were wonderful, particularly the 3rd. Gabby should always start when we play Everton, as he seems to have a great scoring record against them too.

Mental note if we draw them in the cup next season then...(smiley thing)

[The Situation]

When Clark competes to win a contested header he just looks kinda weak and flimsy.

[Drummond]

I'm not sure whether Vlaar was poor or unlucky but Fellaini got free as Vlaar was barged out of position (unintentionally I think) by Anichebe.

Fellaini's shot went through a crowd of players, why wasn't he closed down though.

As for Clark, he's clearly learning but he's nervous and he needs to calm down.

[tomd2103]

I'm not sure whether Vlaar was poor or unlucky but Fellaini got free as Vlaar was barged out of position (unintentionally I think) by Anichebe.

Fellaini's shot went through a crowd of players, why wasn't he closed down though.

As for Clark, he's clearly learning but he's nervous and he needs to calm down.

Drummond - there's an old saying when it comes to sportsmen and women - "you can't put in what God has left out".  I just don't think Clark is ever going to be physically strong enough or nasty enough top be a top CB.  If you could combine his ability on the ball with Baker's physical attributes, then we would be talking about a top prospect.   

[Drummond]

Somebody on here used to say 'if in doubt, blame the fans'
Can't remember who said it though.

I'm not blaming the fans, when I say moans I mean the natural exhalation when something isn't right. I think that the disappointment transfers to the players. Because of our shit form and recent history the fans are expecting to be disappointed and it sounds like it.