How many points will keep us up?

[Irish villain]

I think we may forget Wigan. Sunderland are our best bet. Can anybody see them winning two more games?

One thing is clear, the board really need to make bloody sure we progress this summer. We have fallen too far too easily and if we don't take steps to stop it we will drop soon.

While I think our players will be much better next season, and have repeatedly said this, I am sure other teams around and above us will strengthen and we need to do the same. We need to regain a feel good factor and make Aston Villa a dynamic force again. We need to attract better players. We are too big to be just making up the numbers every year. We came mighty close to the drop last year and will do so again this season. It can't be allowed to become a trend.

[eastie]

I think we may forget Wigan. Sunderland are our best bet. Can anybody see them winning two more games?

One thing is clear, the board really need to make bloody sure we progress this summer. We have fallen too far too easily and if we don't take steps to stop it we will drop soon.

While I think our players will be much better next season, and have repeatedly said this, I am sure other teams around and above us will strengthen and we need to do the same. We need to regain a feel good factor and make Aston Villa a dynamic force again. We need to attract better players. We are too big to be just making up the numbers every year. We came mighty close to the drop last year and will do so again this season. It can't be allowed to become a trend.

Can certainly see wigan winning at least 2 more games and sunderland will expect to beat stoke and southampton at home - will be a close run thing.

I think if we get to 39 points we will be fine.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I did think 37, but would now like 39. With Fulham and Sunderland to come, I'd like to think there's 6 points there. I think we could scrape the rest together somewhere along the line.

[David_Nab]

I think we need 3 wins..at the very least we can not lose to Sunderland Norwich and Wigan.

I think we may spring a surprise by beating Chelsea , only seem to get up for the big games and have played alot of football this year and some players looking jaded.

[PeterWithesShin]

I just did the predictor and had us 5 points clear of the bottom 3 by the time we play Wigan.

[eastie]

I just did the predictor and had us 5 points clear of the bottom 3 by the time we play Wigan.

Crikey , what villa wins did you get? I got 2 wins and 2 draws but I was a bit strict.

[PeterWithesShin]

I only had us on 38 points. And I showed no bias towards other clubs results either. Hope i'm better at guessing results than I am guessing the crowd!

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

I think we need 38 points.

3 wins, 2 draws or equivalent.

If we can beat QPR, Fulham and Sunderland at home (realistically our best chances of wins), that would take us to 36

Then 2 points out of: Liverpool (H), Stoke, Norwich and Wigan (all A)

Anything out of Man U and Chelsea as a bonus.

Also just checked and the FA Cup Final is the week before the last Premier League game.  Hopefully Wigan are in the Final, and get beaten in extra time, to make them knackered and dispirited for our game.

Now 2 wins 2 draws I think.

Sunderland is a must win, and Fulham should be our next best chance.

Then 2 points from Stoke, Norwich or Wigan (all away).

So 8 points from 5 games - with anything from Man U (a) and Chelsea (h) a massive bonus.

[john e]

i thought a few weeks ago that 35 or maybe even less might be enough, but clearly that is going to be wrong,

although i dont think QPR or Reading will get 35 points, to avoid the 3rd place spot i reckon it will take 38 points as a minimum to be safe,

[saunders_heroes]

40 points minimum I think. Anything below that and I think we're gone.

[eastie]

I only had us on 38 points. And I showed no bias towards other clubs results either. Hope i'm better at guessing results than I am guessing the crowd!

Same as me , I had us on 38 but I had stoke, norwich wigan and sunderland all finish on 38  and us losing our last game at wigan 2-1
I don't think I could take the pressure of a last day decider

[curiousorange]

The sickening thought for me is that I have this vision of other teams not slipping up, so even if we beat Stoke and Fulham, say, it would be matched and/or bettered over the seven games by the other teams around us.

[eastie]

The sickening thought for me is that I have this vision of other teams not slipping up, so even if we beat Stoke and Fulham, say, it would be matched and/or bettered over the seven games by the other teams around us.

There are an awful lot of games though between the bottom 8 where they play each other so someone must drop points.

[curiousorange]

The sickening thought for me is that I have this vision of other teams not slipping up, so even if we beat Stoke and Fulham, say, it would be matched and/or bettered over the seven games by the other teams around us.

There are an awful lot of games though between the bottom 8 where they play each other so someone must drop points.

Though what you say is logical, the irrational part of me thinks there'll be this bunfight between all the sides above us and we'll be there sat in 18th letting the opportunity to poke our heads above the surface slip week after week.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Still gutted about not grabbing a point against Liverpool. Stoke win and Norwich win draw Sunderland draw Fulham should do it .......