Let the record show

[Mortimer's Bear]

Agreed. Benteke would definitely go, as for Guzan, he's good, but not that good. Definitely not beyond the realms of probability that he'd stay.

I also get the impression that Guzan would remain loyal to the club and give it least one season trying to get back up.

What after we let him go last season?

Yes even after letting him go last season, its just my opinion but I think he'd stick around for at least another season.

[Ger Regan]

I think they'd drop wages to leave and stay in the top division.

Not a chance with Ireland. It's pretty well known that he treats it purely as a job (rather than something he really enjoys doing), so the likelihood of him deciding to take a wage cut is minimal at best.

[Drummond]

Fair enough. We're lumbered.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm not sure Benteke would go actually, in fact I'm not sure that any of Lambert's signings would. Vlaar and Benteke are the two most likely granted but a number of international players haven't left relegated clubs before and those two have only just signed deals.

Of course Dunne will be leaving and perhaps Ireland and N'Zogbia would go too, but frankly that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

We've two keepers and would only need one. My guess is that Given would leave but that Guzan would stay, he was almost ready to sign for a Championship club in the summer until we came back in for him so my gut reaction would be that he'd stick, provided he was number one.

As for the rest, well I don't see them going; the most likely would be Gabby but I reckon he'd actually want to stay for a year to try and get us back up. Weimann is still too raw and is of course about to sign a new contract.

So do you believe there would be a basis left there to get us back into the Premiership?

I actually think that those bought by Lambert would stay, at least for one more season. They are under contract so unless the offer was stupid there wouldn't be a huge need to sell. The likes of Makoun, Hutton, Given, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bent would all be sold though. They don't really fit, and for the £20m or so they'd bring in could be replaced at that level for a lot less. Much of getting back is positive momentum and we have none right now. Lambert has shown he can bring a team up. It just needs to be his team.

Fuck me, I hate even discussing the topic of promotion. Feel dirty.

[Dave]

I think they'd drop wages to leave and stay in the top division.

But why would they do that? How does earning less money benefit them? It's not like they're putting their international careers or Champions League dreams at risk.

Assuming Ireland is on £60,000 per week and N'Zogbia is on £40,000 per week, they're not going to be heading off to Spurs or Liverpool, so why would they go and earn half as much (at best) playing for Cardiff or Norwich rather than sitting out their contract and earning the money that they are owed?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Zigic has insisted on staying at the Dog Shit and is reputedly bleeding them dry to the tune of £65,000pw.

[Villafirst]

Zigic has insisted on staying at the Dog Shit and is reputedly bleeding them dry to the tune of £65,000pw.

Peter Pan can't like that! Administration beckons!

[Percy McCarthy]

Correct me if I am wrong by all means but didnt Lambert say about three weeks ago. "Randy doesnt want any loan players".

Which means either Lerner is a liar or Lambert is.

Who scouted this MLS player was it Henke ?

This disastrous regime has brought our historic club to its knees.

Simon Dawkins sounds like a Blue Peter presenter!

On a positive note and Im struggling here. Darren Bent is still here and Dawkins is only on loan to the end of the season.

Lambert is now probably the worst manager in our clubs history.

Totally incomprehensibly and totally gutless.

It doesn't mean anyone's a liar. They probably didn't want any loan players but perhaps they didn't have much option and the ones they wanted to buy didn't come to fruition.

We could of course have spunked a commitment of £32m to sign Samba like QPR did. I've no doubt he wasn't what they wanted but nobody was prepared to release other players.

So you either have to sign an unexperienced Championship player or a hugely overpaid mercenary?

Shit, there was me thinking there was something in between.

Now Drummond. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Give me some examples. Who else managed to sign the type of player we were looking for?

In January, the clubs want massive money for players or they won't sell. Look at what has been spunked on players that really aren't that good. What's the point in doing what we've always done?

We could have spent the money we did on the wages of Scharner, Upson and Reo-Coker, and I'd feel a bit more hopeful.

[danlanza]

Now, cmo'n lets have a laugh tonight. Watch this and you will laugh. It follows loads of the same things but this is new, just a few days ago. Laugh, ladies and Gents and get all the anger out of you. UTV

[Phil from the upper holte]

We are a shambles for sure.

5 wins in 40 games.

I worked it out yesterday in 62 league games we've won 11

[Ger Regan]

Zigic has insisted on staying at the Dog Shit and is reputedly bleeding them dry to the tune of £65,000pw.

And rising, hilariously.

[PeterWithe]

The promoted teams are going to have £60m burning a hole in their pockets, I can see a fair bit of that turning up in our coffers for some of the 'star names'

[Rigadon]

If we go down, there will have to be a fire sale to get rid of the players on the biggest wages, so expect yet more losses on transfer fees.  Those expecting Benteke to stick around are deluding themselves.  He'll be off regardless of whether we stay up or not.  Relegation will see the likes of Bent, Vlaar and N'Zogbia go for sure and maybe Gabby.  The only proper money we'll recoup will be Benteke (about £15m or thereabouts).

You know, I'm probably just as deluded but I think if we can get Bent scoring and Benteke / Gabby go on a run of getting us goals we can still escape this filthy mess. 




 

[Greg N'Ash]

I really don't get the logic of some people on here .The likes of Makoun, Hutton, Given, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bent would all be sold now if we  could - we can't shift them so they'll definetely be here next season unless we give them away, while players like Benteke will be flogged to raise cash and keep us afloat. It's what always happen in these circumstances. The quality gets sold and you're left with the arse.

[eastie]

I really don't get the logic of some people on here .The likes of Makoun, Hutton, Given, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bent would all be sold now if we  could - we can't shift them so they'll definetely be here next season unless we give them away, while players like Benteke will be flogged to raise cash and keep us afloat. It's what always happen in these circumstances. The quality gets sold and you're left with the arse.

True greg and in our case an awful lot of arse!